Saima Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Perhaps this would be in another format, maybe not. What if: Minimum Main Deck size = 50 Maximum Extra Deck size = 20 I think it would be an interesting way to play, seeing as the extra deck is just too small to accomodate Omni-HERO Gem-Knight Synchro Xyz. Gogogo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Maindeck wouldn't change much. Extra Deck would cause fangasms all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Most decks would lose consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saima Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 My thought is that it would cripple combo decks, and stuff that revolves around 1-2 cards. Wouldn't that be good in general for the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Extra Deck change is just stupid. 15 is good, mainly because it promotes prioritising what you need the most. If you have those extra slots in the Extra Deck, you have so much choice that it's unhealthy for the game. It makes it way too easy. And I really wouldn't like to play with a 50 card deck, except in MonsterMash. Combo decks shouldn't really be crippled. They are the weakest of the five types of deck (Control, Swarm, Combo, Disrupt, Toolbox/Miscellaneous), and require way too much luck to be good anyway. If you can make combo decks consistent, kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Saima' timestamp='1317926802' post='5564286']Minimum Main Deck size = 50 [b]Why would you do that? The game's already expensive enough as it is. Do you really want people to have to spend MORE money for LESS-consistent decks?[/b] Maximum Extra Deck size = 20 [b]AW, H*LL NO! Break the game, why don't yah.[/b] Omni-HERO Gem-Knight Synchro Xyz. [u]Gogogo[/u]. [b]Best.dek[/b][/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Owait, MINIMUM becomes 50. derp. Though trading consistency for more power in the Extra seems kind of fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1317934854' post='5564574']Owait, MINIMUM becomes 50. derp. Though trading consistency [b]and a bunch more money [/b]for more power in the Extra seems kind of fair [b]to online players[/b].[/quote] fix'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I'm not taking money into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1317936346' post='5564634']I'm not taking money into consideration.[/quote] Clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Well why would I? All my good decks are on DN anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1317936628' post='5564642']Well why would I? All my good decks are on DN anyway.[/quote] Because people want to have a social life off the computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1317936737' post='5564648'] Because people want to have a social life off the computer. [/quote] Eh, I wouldn't really count buying pieces of cardboard as a social life. Also, I'm still super iffy on the Extra Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 This is intresting as with it may make some cards come of the banlist and hit one due to how the consitance of the deck is at 50 in more ways... 60 card decks and it be just like MGT XD Tho if the deck size min did become 50 my deck would be then raito'ed as 25 Monster 15 Spells 10 Traps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 the extra deck size is being used as a regulatory tool for all the game changing power konami has crammed into it. but at the same time - it kills the entire HERO archetype - which konami invested an entire generation of the game into - Synchros are obviously the problem here - New Rule The extra deck may contain 15 Synchro Monsters. Unlimited Xyz Unlimited Fusion and something besides HERO beat might actually top - it would push LC2 off the shelves konami!!! but this will never happen. I could see the extra becoming SMALLER if anything. I say it's at 15 to stay. I personally thought they were looking for more space when they said extra deck monsters could go in the side and that it was a sign we may get a boost to the extra deck size. but it's a year later and no boost. it's just not going to happen. it would be like me capitalizing the first word of my sentences. not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 [quote name='Cursed Reaction' timestamp='1317927440' post='5564308'] And I really wouldn't like to play with a 50 card deck, except in MonsterMash. Combo decks shouldn't really be crippled. They are the weakest of the five types of deck (Control, Swarm, Combo, Disrupt, Toolbox/Miscellaneous), and require way too much luck to be good anyway. If you can make combo decks consistent, kudos. [/quote] WTF is a Disrupt Deck to you? I only considered 3 types of Strategys in TCGs in General and those are Control, Aggro and Combo...Combo is not the weakest one...all OTK/FTK are Combo in essence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1317997955' post='5565822'] WTF is a Disrupt Deck to you? I only considered 3 types of Strategys in TCGs in General and those are Control, Aggro and Combo...Combo is not the weakest one...all OTK/FTK are Combo in essence... [/quote] venser was that directed to me? If so - I have no idea - I read Hoey's recent article about Dark World and saw what he was saying about Disrupt decks but other than that this is a new concept to me. Please tell me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANDAA BORUTO Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Lightsworns and GBs gain consistency while everyone else loses. As for the Extra Deck, I would run 3x Stardust with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 [quote name='Like The Wind' timestamp='1317999307' post='5565853'] Lightsworns and GBs gain consistency [/quote] Yes because the only reason they don't play 50 cards now is because it's against the rules. The only deck that wouldn't lose consistency is 60 card themeless highlander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 [quote name='HaouJudai' timestamp='1317999197' post='5565848'] venser was that directed to me? If so - I have no idea - I read Hoey's recent article about Dark World and saw what he was saying about Disrupt decks but other than that this is a new concept to me. Please tell me more. [/quote] It was actually on Cursed Comment of the 5 type of Decks Sorry it was confusing...XD I dropped a Quote to make it more clear Even then if Disrupt Deck are what I think they are they don't count into the main categories....they like toolbox are mainly hybrids of the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1317997955' post='5565822'] WTF is a Disrupt Deck to you? I only considered 3 types of Strategys in TCGs in General and those are Control, Aggro and Combo...Combo is not the weakest one...all OTK/FTK are Combo in essence... [/quote] So what would you classify Rock Stun as? Seems more like a disrupt than control tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 that's my point Define Disrupt... I mean Disrupt sounds like Control to me... As in Control AKA (Controling the field/hand Advantage DISRUPTING your opponent plays and gaining advantage from it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Rock stun doesn't gain advantage though since most of the stuff is tributing. It's made to counter any move your opponent throws. Control is to gain advantage, disrupt is to counter. He's got a whole topic on this even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Control is not only gaining advantage...O_o Control is to "control" the gamestate be it gaining some card advantage which is needed to have more answers to counter your opponents moves or by going to a serie of trades that allows you mantain a higher position in the game state.... Disrupt is a Subclass or subfunction of Control Decks...rather than a proper class What happen is that you are seeing control only as a fraction of all it does... Rock Stun is clearly a Control Deck...it controls the field and while it doesn't generate high amounts of advantages...it doesn't need them...Becuase in the control sence...the exchanges are more benefical to the Control Player than to the other...and in that sence...You get some Virtual Advantage...which promply leads to the victory...be it becuase of the Game is finished by a Big Boss monster or by constantly poking the opponent with your smallers ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 People would main 3 Upstart or similar draw cards to compensate for requiring 10 more cards in their deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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