Developous Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Do you hate it that perfectly good cards are banned/restricted due to certain cards existing in the first place? The 'developous' format is a movement towards a new version of ruling for yugioh! Instead of banning specific cards... Certain cards cannot exist when in combination with certain OTHER cards in the same deck. Let me begin the rulings I would presently set in this matter: New limits: 1x Sinister Serpent Sinister serpent cannot be in the same deck as abyss soldier. 1x Butterfly Dagger - Buma Butterfly dagger cannot be in the same deck as gearfried the iron knight. You too can advise rulings on such cards.... This is a SERIOUS attempt to have them actually accept such rulings, PLEASE SUPPORT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 no. Just remake them except bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Sinister Serpent is a continuous +1.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Abyss Soldier? LOL Brionac, dood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developous Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 They would never make remakes... its sorta better they have these rulings anyhow. Why should cards be denied just because there are abusive combinations? It makes no sense in that matter. However, I would ammend in situations where the combinations are by far too good and neumerous in number... Py a lot of combos with sinister serpent alone, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Sinister Serpent is infinite discard fodder. Abyss Soldier may have been one of the reasons it was banned, but it's not even close to the only reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 [quote name='Developous' timestamp='1319148836' post='5590132'] They would never make remakes... its sorta better they have these rulings anyhow. Why should cards be denied just because there are abusive combinations? It makes no sense in that matter. [/quote] Reforged Butterfly Sword - Elma The Equipped monster gains ____ ATK. Once per Turn, when this is sent from the field to the graveyard, you may Pay ____ LP/Tirbute 1 onster/Other Cost to return this to your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developous Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 thats not [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1319149267' post='5590149'] Sinister Serpent is infinite discard fodder. Abyss Soldier may have been one of the reasons it was banned, but it's not even close to the only reason. [/quote] Your right, it would just pop back a million times. Still, that leaves butterfly dagger. I dont think this ruling will work either: 1x Harpies Feather Duster If this card is in your deck, you cannot have other cards that negate and/or destroy magics and/or traps in your deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 [quote name='Developous' timestamp='1319149752' post='5590164'] 1x Harpies Feather Duster If this card is in your deck, you cannot have other cards that negate and/or destroy magics and/or traps in your deck. [/quote] And there goes any use of playing it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 [quote name='Guardian Ceal' timestamp='1319149279' post='5590151'] Reforged Butterfly Sword - Elma This card is treated as "Butterfly Dagger - Elma" while on the field. The Equipped monster gains 500 ATK. When this is sent from the field to the graveyard, you may banish 1 card from your Graveyard to shuffle this card into your Deck, then draw 1 card. [/quote] OCG aside, this is how I would do it. Still abusable, but not dangerously game-shattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developous Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 The discussion is not about replacing cards. Its about a new form of RULING. basicly, allowing old cards, but making there be illegal COMBOS. For example, Gearfried + Butterfly would be illegal instead of banning butterfly in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 [quote name='Developous' timestamp='1319150149' post='5590177'] Well, the point is that this form of ruling wants to open up some old banned cards, due to how they are perfectly good, yet abusive due to certain combinations. for example, how would you like to use butterfly dagger with V-Lord? etc... Basicly, the new ruling would make certain COMBOS banned. could try to discuss that on this, along with trying to get it promoted, ya? [/quote] Harpies Feather Duster is not abusive because of any combo. It is abusive because itself alone can wipe out all of the opponent's defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 [quote name='AggroDrago' timestamp='1319150215' post='5590178'] Harpies Feather Duster is not abusive because of any combo. It is abusive because itself alone can wipe out all of the opponent's defenses. [/quote] Which is the same reason Trunade's banned this format. [/captobv] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 [quote name='Developous' timestamp='1319148836' post='5590132'] They would never make remakes... [/quote] http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shard_of_Greed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developous Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 [quote name='AggroDrago' timestamp='1319150215' post='5590178'] Harpies Feather Duster is not abusive because of any combo. It is abusive because itself alone can wipe out all of the opponent's defenses. [/quote] Right, thats a major reason why it would never come back, or have a combos ruling that would ruin the purpose of it in the first place. Worse still, it has NO cost to it, so it more than makes sense. Edit: Thanks, last poster, didn't know such cards existed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 [quote name='Developous' timestamp='1319150149' post='5590177'] The discussion is not about replacing cards. Its about a new form of RULING. basicly, allowing old cards, but making there be illegal COMBOS. [/quote] But that's stupid. It's just better to make weaker versions. HFD->Heavy->MST-> MST replacements Raigeki->Dark Hole->Various destroy 1 mons cards PoG->Shard->Legacy->Jar of Greed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Replacements also make Konami more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developous Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 True, but the key point still stands:[color=#ff0000] Its pointless banning cards just because it makes an OPPD combination.[/color] yes, I am aware that its much easier just to make new cards, thus replaces, but what about the moral impact of that decision? No... It makes much more sense to have banned combos instead. Less money, but its for the better. And I know they can afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 [quote name='Developous' timestamp='1319150810' post='5590200'] True, but the key point still stands:[color=#ff0000] Its pointless banning cards just because it makes an OPPD combination.[/color] yes, I am aware that its much easier just to make new cards, thus replaces, but what about the moral impact of that decision? No... It makes much more sense to have banned combos instead. Less money, but its for the better. And I know they can afford it. [/quote] MORAL IMPACT? It's a freaking card game! You know what? Let's put Cathedral of Nobles, Exchange of the spirit, Elma, CED, and DSF @3. Banning combos is stupid because some cards are INFINITELY abusable. See CED and DSF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 The point system is pretty much what you want, only better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developous Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I AM NOT saying you need to unban ALL of them. Just take harpies feather as an example. I am saying, change the rulings so that unbroken cards can finally have a return to the game. Instead of banning those cards, they just cant be used in decks with certain cards. o_O Twilight, you piqued my curiosity. I would like to see this point system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Pennar Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End If this card is in your Deck, Developous Format Sucks... Seriousness aside, That is the sole reason that such a format shall not exist, that, and all cards that are banned can be abused with anything and everything EDIT: Damn! Ninja'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 So, basically make this game a lot more complicated than it is? And it's not right to say "This card is abusable, let's ban the combo, not the card. Then let's ban CED for beign abusable." Sinister Serpent need not come off the list, at all, and nor should other banned cards. They're banned because they were bad for the game, no matter how sad we are to see Mind Master get locked in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 [quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1319151353' post='5590216'] The point system is pretty much what you want, only better. [/quote] My GBA is still stained from my tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developous Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 GIYAA! hmph. I am NOT saying you unban those frickin OPPD cards out there. Even I wouldn't want a CED running amok. I am saying... "Let the cards that ARE NOT oppd finally have a chance to re emerge." The new form of ruling ONLY brings back non-oppd cards, but denying CERTAIN COMBOS. For example, Butterfly + Gearfried would be forbidden, but not one or the other.bump for edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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