Jord200 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_30:_Acid_Golem_of_Destruction 2 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Level"]Level[/url] 3 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card"]monsters[/url] During each of your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Standby_Phase"]Standby Phases[/url]: [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Detach"]Detach[/url] 1 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Xyz_Material"]Xyz Material[/url] from this card or take 2000 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Effect_Damage"]damage[/url]. If this card has no Xyz Materials, it cannot [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Attack"]attack[/url]. While this card is [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up"]face-up[/url] on the field, you cannot[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon"]Special Summon[/url]. disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Card is awesome, but usually best used for a quick beatstick or in a deck focused on swapping it. Relying on it for longer than a turn or two tops is a good way to kill yourself, as locking your own Special Summons and taking 2000 a turn will add up very quickly to defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 It's like, really good and stuff. I actually won a match by this. Creature Swap wins games. Actually, can you give and take this to put your opponent in a pinch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm not sure how Give and Take works with Xyz, if at all. Summoning and increasing Levels resolves simultaneously, but Xyz don't have Levels, so I haven't figured out if an Xyz is an invalid target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'd generally prefer to reserve its Extra Deck slot for Leviathan, as it fits the same niche without the abysmal drawbacks. Also, [url=http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=62483&event=FE0006]Give and Take doesn't work.[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 How this card served as Shark's "death" is beyond me. I mean apon being destroyed, this card goes back to Kaito's Grave, so technically it was still Kaito's by the end of the duel. But ehh, plot devices are plot devices. Though it is rather humorous that this card is a WATER monster, just because Shark had momentary control over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Levia's drawbacks: No direct attack if he has no materials attached. Acid Golem's drawbacks: No special summons Take 2000 burn or detach a metarial per turn Can't attack without materials Now who's abysmal? Ninjas getting in my way and s***. [quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1322793063' post='5679633'] I'd generally prefer to reserve its Extra Deck slot for Leviathan, as it fits the same niche without the abysmal drawbacks. Also, [url=http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=62483&event=FE0006]Give and Take doesn't work.[/url] [/quote] I read japanese, but not that good. Throw it in a translator or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1322793317' post='5679650'] How this card served as Shark's "death" is beyond me. I mean apon being destroyed, this card goes back to Kaito's Grave, so technically it was still Kaito's by the end of the duel. But ehh, plot devices are plot devices. Though it is rather humorous that this card is a WATER monster, just because Shark had momentary control over it. [/quote] Those last two lines in Acid Golem's anime effect were stupid. "If this card is attacked while it has no Overlay Units, it is destroyed. If this card is destroyed, inflict 2000 damage to its controller". The fact it specified its controller meant whoever controlled it when it was destroyed from the Field, no matter whose Graveyard it entered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1322793468' post='5679659'] The fact it specified its controller meant whoever controlled it when it was destroyed from the Field, no matter whose Graveyard it entered.[/quote] Actually, I was talking about the fact Kaito decided to [s]rape[/s]Photon Hand Shark, in order to get Golem back, despite the fact Shark never had Golem to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote] Levia's drawbacks: No direct attack if he has no materials attached. Acid Golem's drawbacks: No special summons Take 2000 burn or detach a metarial per turn Can't attack without materials Now who's abysmal?[/quote] Um, still Acid Golem? :\ [quote] I read japanese, but not that good. Throw it in a translator or something. [/quote] [quote] [font=arial, helvetica,]It is not possible to select ekushizumonsuta which originally does not have level as an object of the effect which summons “giving & teiku” specially.[/quote][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1322793826' post='5679678'] Actually, I was talking about the fact Kaito decided to [s]rape[/s]Photon Hand Shark, in order to get Golem back, despite the fact Shark never had Golem to begin with. [/quote] Kaito was under the impression Shark had a Number. He used Photon Hand and got an empty soul. He wasn't trying to retrieve Golem, he was doing his usual Number hunting and ended up beating someone who didn't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Except maybe it's my sickness or tiredness clouding my vision, but I could've sworn you implied Leviathan was worse. I'm gonna go lie down now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='GreigaBeastDS' timestamp='1322794681' post='5679749'] Except maybe it's my sickness or tiredness clouding my vision, but I could've sworn you implied Leviathan was worse. I'm gonna go lie down now. [/quote] no just that number 30's drawbacks are pretty fatal but of course, it's a monster with 3000 ATK and DEF! lol oddly enough, it was made for us to benefit its effects by switching control of it >:3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Somehow, on lolDN it's Acid Golem the Destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant - FEAR' timestamp='1322817516' post='5680301'] Somehow, on lolDN it's Acid Golem the Destruction. [/quote] right now that one of the MANY errors on cars they still yet to fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 It's much better than people think it is. Tour Guide summons it out easily, and 3000 ATK is actually, well, quite a lot. Runs over Stardust, and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='.:Corbenik:.' timestamp='1322821500' post='5680316'] errors on cars[/quote] [img]http://homepage3.nifty.com/poo-pii/IMG_0412a.jpg[/img] Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant - FEAR' timestamp='1322865465' post='5681271'] Yeah [/quote] Japanese, you all crack me up. OT: Definetly overlooked, but it's not AS good yet if you're not running something a bit specific towards it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 It's really fun. I actually use it in my Photon deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [spoiler=My most favorite moment on DN] [img]http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/357/dnacidgolemforwin.png[/img] [/spoiler] Yeah. It's better to use Mystic Box than Creature Swap IMO. Much more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1322794462' post='5679728'] Kaito was under the impression Shark had a Number. He used Photon Hand and got an empty soul. He wasn't trying to retrieve Golem, he was doing his usual Number hunting and ended up beating someone who didn't have one. [/quote] What confuses me is why, if he is only hunting those with Numbers, he simply didn't put the soul back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Charlotte The Witch' timestamp='1322879930' post='5681921'] What confuses me is why, if he is only hunting those with Numbers, he simply didn't put the soul back? [/quote] My bet: Because Yuma and pals showed up. That threw a small wrench into his operation. Originally, he just wanted Orbital to get the Emperor's Key and get out, but Shark interfered and when Kaito confronted him, Shark identified him as the Numbers Hunter, prompting Kaito to assume Shark had a Number. Shark implied he did. Thus, they dueled, with Kaito planning on taking the Key and Shark's (nonexistent) Number when he won. His Photon Mode evidently has a power limit, because he was told he couldn't duel Yuma right then and there, so he simply took the Key and left. He probably didn't give much further thought to the fact he captured a Number-less soul until after his duel with Astral. And even that decision seemed to come out of nowhere. OT: Some people use Acid Golem as a generic Rank 3 beatstick with Tour Guide and stuff. I rarely consider it a genuine threat in this case, but sometimes do have to destroy it ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 I always use it at the end of an Inzektor combo, usually powering it up with some #20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Merciful Idiot' timestamp='1322877037' post='5681771'] [spoiler=My most favorite moment on DN] [img]http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/357/dnacidgolemforwin.png[/img] [/spoiler] Yeah. It's better to use Mystic Box than Creature Swap IMO. Much more effective. [/quote] This gave me a new perspective at Time Psyduck >:I @Darkplaint: lol you make me jelly :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1322880646' post='5681978'] His Photon Mode evidently has a power limit[/quote] I thought too much of it damages him mentally and physically, or something.[color=#FFFFFF]Same as Yugioh[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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