Jump to content

March 2012 banlist predictions

RAEGING D0GKING

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 139
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Guest Evil Tristan

Guest Evil Tristan

Posted
Posted

I don't know why you guys keep thinking Brionac's gonna go. It's been around @1 since almost the getgo, and I'm quite content with the fact that it's not going to go anywhere. Should it? Yeah. Will it? No.

 

Just because it hasn't yet been banned doesn't mean it won't. Trunade used to be fine until it was realised how truly abusable it is, it's the same with Brionac, especially with a faster metagame where it can clear a field and go for an OTK, or it's part of an OTK itself.

 

How often do you even hear people complaining about it anymore? There's definitely some things that need to be fixed before that.

 

People complain about Brio all the time. ._.

 

I'd like to see something come back that would make the game interesting, like maybe Marshmallon @2 and Chain Strike @3. Burn Decks increasing in popularity would give me an excuse to run Black-Winged Dragon, which is a good thing. =p

 

Using a bad card isn't a good thing. Marshmallon is @1 because any higher and it gets ridiculous to deal with. Chain Strike makes Chain Burn ridiculous if it's @3.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest -Noel-

Guest -Noel-

Posted
Posted

I don't see why. Rescue Rabbit has been horrible for this format, and FuFu has been needing the axe for a while, as has Tour Guide, though he's a long shot as he's TCG only.

 

Trunade would be decent to have back at one, but that was another long shot.

 

Konami's trying to push Chaos Dragons and Inzektors pretty heavily, so they might give use another Dark Armed if they thought it would get us to play them.

 

The things that befuddle me most about your selection is that you pointed out Unlimiting Marshmallon without pointing to Semi-Limiting Spirit Reaper and that you don't think that Tribute could come back. Tribute is more consitant at 2 anyway, so the semi-limit is more token than anything else at this point, and I see no reason Marshmellon shouldn't be at 3 if Spirit Reaper is ok at 3.

 

Most of the cards that I bolded won't get the positions that you suggested because of money. Especially Rescue Rabbit.

 

Marshmallon is also a card which Konami won't put at 3 because of two factors. One, they hate burn. Two, you don't want to run into 3 Marshmallons in a game. These are not solid reasons, but are the ones they use.

 

Spirit Reaper should be Semi'd because it's better than Marshmallon in practice, and has more versatility.

 

They trying to push Chaos Dragons and Inzektors is not a reason to Semi-Limit DAD. It's position should not be changed.

 

Trunade AND Heavy are a definite no. And you already pointed out why Tour Guide won't get hit this immediately. Royal Tribute should not be put into 3 too.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
evilfusion Newbie

evilfusion

Posted
Posted

Remember people, the OCG makes the banlist. That's why Tengu wasn't hit: It's a TCG Exclusive that hasn't reached the OCG yet.

 

Tour Guide wont get touched because the OCG doesn't have it. Rescue Rabbit is only broken in the TCG due to us retaining priority and having instant Leviair due to Tour Guide. Otherwise, it's a solid card that has potential for abuse, but hasn't done it in the part of the world where it matters.

 

So I dont think Rabbit will get hit either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ieyasu Tokugawa Newbie

Ieyasu Tokugawa

Posted
Posted

I thought OCG where intelligent...

Do they not realise or ask Konami's TCG department before they make the list? Surely it should be a joint-effort. Even if the OCG put Tengu @2 & TGU@1, would TCG follow suit or ignore it?

Why should they? They're OCG, not TCG. It doesn't concern them how broken our meta is.

 

And if something has a bad enough impact, there are such things as emergency bans/limits. Take a guess why it has yet to happen to any of the cards here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest - Sharpshooter -

Guest - Sharpshooter -

Posted
Posted

 

Don't get me wrong, I fully support Brionac getting banned and I think it's a long time coming. I'm just saying, every format list discussion we all say "Brionac should be banned". Then the list comes around and he's left alone. I'm just not sure if it's making that much of an impact that they'll take notice and ban it, because it's been much worse in some formats than it has so far for this one. I'm definitely agreeing with you that it should go, and not saying it's lack of notice should be the reason it stays, just that it might be based on what we've seen over the past few formats.

 

As for Chain Strike, am I wrong in thinking you can't loop Chain Strikes together in the same chain, and that it has to be different names? I could be totally wrong on that, and if I am, then I agree it's fine as is. Marshmallon on the other hand, I don't think is that bad that it needs to stay at 1. The invincibility isn't that big of a problem, and to be honest the damage might cause players to want to play more skillfully instead of wasting their Solemns from the getgo and not having any Life Points left to survive with.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest Evil Tristan

Guest Evil Tristan

Posted
Posted

Chain Strike is just ridiculous at 3, it makes Chain Burn good, basically.

 

Marshmallon dodges damage by battle (duh) which is still the most common form of monster removal. Every first attempt to kill it is 1000 burn, then the player has to worry about getting rid of it. In a good burn deck, that 1000 means a lot, and 2 Marshmallons or 3 becomes stupid.

 

Because, you know, some people don't like Heavy Storm.

 

Heavy Storm brings some form of skill to the format instead of making it "Summon 1, set 4, end".

Link to comment
Share on other sites
evilfusion Newbie

evilfusion

Posted
Posted

As for Chain Strike, am I wrong in thinking you can't loop Chain Strikes together in the same chain, and that it has to be different names? I could be totally wrong on that, and if I am, then I agree it's fine as is. Marshmallon on the other hand, I don't think is that bad that it needs to stay at 1. The invincibility isn't that big of a problem, and to be honest the damage might cause players to want to play more skillfully instead of wasting their Solemns from the getgo and not having any Life Points left to survive with.

 

You can activate 2 Chain Strikes in the same chain. All the "Chain Link" cards with the restriction only count effects with the same name that are already Chain Links. For example, if you use Jar of Greed and another Jar of Greed appears elsewhere in the chain, you cannot activate the Chain Link cards.

 

But you can chain cards like Accumulated Fortune or Chain Strike even if another copy of itself is in the chain, but not if there are 2 copies of a card effect in the chain.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
byak Newbie

byak

Posted
Posted

-Banned

 

Monsters

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning (from limited)

Lonefire Blossom (from limited)

Sangan (from limited)

 

Spells

One for One (from limited)

 

Traps

Trap Dustshoot (from limited)

 

-Limited

 

Traps

Royal Oppression (from forbidden)

 

-Semi-Limited

 

Monsters

Rescue Rabbit (from unlimited)

Dandylion (from limited)

 

Spells

Book of Moon (from limited)

 

Unlimited

 

Primal Seed (from limited)

 

Forbidden (asterisks denote ideas I'm not completely supporting but are ideas)

 

BLS-EOTB - Obvious change, BLS is a game winner on its own and shouldn't have been brought back in the first place

Lonefire Blossom - Executes several plant combos and is just unbalanced with recursion cards and Leviair

Sangan - It's not extremely overpowered, but too good with the existence of Tour Guide. I'm only leaning towards this because Konami is pushing Tour Bus From the Underworld and they might suggest it as an alternative. I'm not 100% sure with this idea though.

One for One - The card is really unbalanced and is one of the main Plant win conditions. Of course Maxx "C" is a good counter, but that doesn't keep this card from being unbelievably game winning

 

Limited

 

Royal Oppression - I feel like it needs to come back to make the format slightly healthier. There's Heavy Storm and the extensive availability of MST to counter it, too. Also, no Trunade to prevent yourself from being shut down by this for a turn

*Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World - it's a viable card to hit, but Dark Worlds haven't been prominent in the OCG and aren't that good in the TCG either. Obviously it's poorly designed but Konami has a tendency of not hitting those cards

*Master Hyperion - It's an idea, stops the sackyness of Agents and makes them rely on Venus plays

*The Agent of Creation - Venus - This is the alternative, and it really hits Agents if they lose this

 

Semi-Limited

 

Dandylion - One for One and Lonefire are gone, and Debris is still at one. It would be neat to see this card used with older cards like Quickdraw again.

Rescue Rabbit - I wouldn't expect a harsh hit towards Rabbit, but it's the only card to hit for this decktype and it's a pretty stupid card

Book of Moon - It would provide more counters to cards such as TKRO, TGU, and Tengu. It'd be interesting to see it come back

Link to comment
Share on other sites
RyanAtlus Newbie

RyanAtlus

Posted
Posted

Allow me to bamboozle you with crazy theories none of you will actually give a f*ck about. Just like the Pope.

 

BANNED

 

-Blackluster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning

This should've never come back in the first place. It may've been less of a pain in the anus without priority, but it just buttfucks everything it can lay its eyes on.

 

-Brionac, Sea Serpent of the Ice Barrier

Kinda messes up stuff... Even though I'll sound like an Ipod that's stuck on replay, I've been screwed by this thing many times thanks to the phrase "Brio with Prio". Ridiculously easy to summon...would've been way better if it required an Ice Barrier non-Tuner...because they're all pretty un-splashable.

 

-Kritter / Sangan

I just claimed it would be good to ban one of the most viable searching methods in todays metagame. But this is kinda the only way to touch Tour Guide without actually touching her.

 

-Monster Reborn

I'll explain it later.

 

LIMITED

 

-Royal Opression

Say what you want, but this card was good for the game. Forced people to think two steps ahead.

 

-Premature Burrial

...and this is where I lose all credability. With Brionac gone, the main combo with this guy dies. Plus, putting Reborn at 0 would be better for the game, right?

 

-Archlord Kristya

I suppose you're not even reading anymore, are you? It's way too easy to bring out, plus with Oppression back, it would become way too easy to lock SS.

 

-Tsukiyomi

Would give Spirits a boost, makes Mill slightly more viable, does crazy s***. Her effect is kinda slow, so yeh?

 

-Gravekeeper's Spy

My Atlus senses tell me this will be splashed in all kinds of DARK Decks once broken Rank 4s are realeased. Why do I think broken Rank 4s will be released? Because Konami, duh. His synergy with Tsukiyomi would be pretty big too. But of course, the disadvantage this would bring to GK will be compensated later this list.

 

SEMI-LIMITED

 

-Transmigration Prophecy

Why is this limited anyways? We'll put it at 2 and after a meta of nobody giving a f***, we'll put it at 3.

 

-Power Bond

No explanation needed. It's not like we're still dueling in 2007, are we?

 

UNLIMITED

 

-Chaos Emperor Dr- (just kidding)

 

-Magical Stone Excavation

Pretty high cost, nearly always gives you a minus. Nobody runs it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...