[MTG] Dark Ascension Spoilers and Discussion.

[Flame Dragon]

With the spoiler seasoin starting in less then a day, figure I should make a thread to put all the info in one place.

To start we have the Theme Decks box art.
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[.Rai]

Requiem Angel has the best art.

I assume blue is staying with mill, green with graveyard fanatics still. White is still gonna be typically Innistrad style, I guess. That vampire in black looks interesting though.

[Zeal Ascendant]

Flayer of the Hatebound looks pretty epic

[.Rai]

I swear all the Devils are gonna be as weird as Charmbreaker Devils.

[CDDRodrigo]

[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1326026947' post='5754255']
I swear all the Devils are gonna be as weird as Charmbreaker Devils.
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True that.

Can't wait for more spoilers

[Flame Dragon]

And so spoiler season begins.

[CDDRodrigo]

Awesome new mechanics!

I'm in love already.

[HSektor]

I loved the Increasing Confusion, Hunger of the Wolfpack and Zombie Apocalypse.

[.Rai]

Undying reminds me of Graft. Even though they're like totally dissimilar. The concept is really awesome though, especially considering the backstory of Dark Ascension.
Fateful hour is so awesome generally.
Double-faced artifact and creature that turns into an aura? ubgybhqwefdisahubfuiqwybefuiywbf. It's like Kamigawa but better.

Thraben Doomsayer looks like an amazing turn 2 drop with Birds of Paradise or Avaycn's Pilgrim. Or generally a good card in White Aggro.

Increasing Confusion is still my favourite card so far <3 That's a ridiculous amount of mill for something like UG mill.

[CDDRodrigo]

[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1326135332' post='5756292']
Undying reminds me of Graft.
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Persist, dude :3

[.Rai]

[quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1326136272' post='5756302']
Persist, dude :3
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aaaaaah. I was wondering what the hell it reminded me of. First thought Graft because that was the most similar mechanic I could come up with

Buffed Persist is awesome.

[CDDRodrigo]

[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1326136375' post='5756305']
aaaaaah. I was wondering what the hell it reminded me of. First thought Graft because that was the most similar mechanic I could come up with

Buffed Persist is awesome.
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ikr.

It actually seems broken, let's see how the other cards will be o:

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1326136517' post='5756309']
ikr.

It actually seems broken, let's see how the other cards will be o:
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IMO, it is going to be a lot like Persist, just with the creatures starting a little under powered to make up for them having 2 lives with the second one being stronger.

It will be very interesting in limited though.

[.Rai]

Soul Seizer should be in the blue spoiler for the opening post

Edit:

You are joking my face off. Because of extremely subtle hints from Magic [/sarcasm], I assume that they're making Vampire Werewolves:

[img]http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/arcana/878_q1n2n_1.jpg[/img]

fuuuuuuu-

[Zeal Ascendant]

Is it just me or does gravecrawler look really good?

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1326138860' post='5756377']
Soul Seizer should be in the blue spoiler for the opening post

Edit:

You are joking my face off. Because of extremely subtle hints from Magic [/sarcasm], I assume that they're making Vampire Werewolves:

[img]http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/arcana/878_q1n2n_1.jpg[/img]

fuuuuuuu-
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Is only 1 cards (ok 2) that we know that aren't in the visual spoiler. I was to lazy to add it since I was just copy/pasting from there. Since we won't always get this many cards a day I'll actually keep it up to date starting tomorrow. For now, I'm going to be lazy.

[quote name='~ GMK ~' timestamp='1326140582' post='5756412']
Is it just me or does gravecrawler look really good?
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Yes, yes it does.


Also, try to keep individual discussions for the individual threads.

[Flame Dragon]

Updated. Still missing a card, but that is because I can't copy/paste.

Anyway, weak day. Lets hope MaRo's card is cool.

[Flame Dragon]

Sorry I haven't updated the past couple days. Since we are likely getting the full spoiler Monday I'll do so then.

[Flame Dragon]

All of the cards have been added.

[Scyire]

I'm sure glad I didn't preorder DA. Few exceptions aside, the set is completely awful compared to Innistrad and M12.

[CDDRodrigo]

It's not that bad, but it's almost Worldwake all over again.

Sorin, Sorin, and Sorin!

[Flame Dragon]

Yea, the set has a lot of cool things in it, but less so for competitive play. And yea, over all most of the sets value is in Sorin. Compare this to NPH for example that has loads of cards worth something going from Mythic to Common.

[CDDRodrigo]

New Phyrexia was a 3rd set though.

What if we compare this to Mirrodin Besieged?

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328043447' post='5792164']
New Phyrexia was a 3rd set though.

What if we compare this to Mirrodin Besieged?
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Even with it being a 3rd set, it has a lo of strong cards at various rarities.

Besieged comes out on top. If you look at the over all value of the cards in the set more cards are worth more. For example if you look at the first page of Channelfireball singles for both sets the bottom of DA gets you to the $1 cards while Besieged gets you into the $4 range.

[.Rai]

Am I the only one who thinks the star card of Ascension is actually Lingering Souls?