Dementuo Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Photon_Rising_Stream Holy Mark Dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Honest is better The art's pretty, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Zextra' timestamp='1327119711' post='5773479'] Honest is better The art's pretty, though. [/quote] In Holy Marks, it's like having Honest @4. Even though it has a few issues... It's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Wingal Brave' timestamp='1327119818' post='5773480'] In Holy Marks, it's like having Honest @4. Even though it has a few issues... It's worth it. [/quote] Fun with Geb, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｄｈａｒｃ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 It works well for Holy Marked's, if you want to run Solidarity. Otherwise, I'd say Honest is better in any situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 This AND Honest are bad in marks .-. LIGHT (And/or Dragon) OR Tribute =/= Holy Marks Dear God, they're fableds all over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327120136' post='5773486'] This AND Honest are bad in marks .-. LIGHT (And/or Dragon) OR Tribute =/= Holy Marks Dear God, they're fableds all over again [/quote] Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Wingal Brave' timestamp='1327120207' post='5773487'] Really? [/quote] Yes, really =/ You don't keep a lot of LIGHT dragons, you just use them as a ladder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327120308' post='5773489'] Yes, really =/ You don't keep a lot of LIGHT dragons, you just use them as a ladder [/quote] All the Holy Marks are LIGHT Dragons, though. But eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｄｈａｒｃ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327120308' post='5773489'] Yes, really =/ You don't keep a lot of LIGHT dragons, you just use them as a ladder [/quote] Yes, and they are used as a ladder for bigger Light Dragons...Granted, they clear the field, but if your opponent pulls a Five-Headed Dragon with Mirror, this card might help out. Now, I'm not saying I'D run it, seeing as how my Carved Dragons are already at over 40 right now, but people can definitely use this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='-Dharc-' timestamp='1327120749' post='5773497'] Yes, and they are used as a ladder for bigger Light Dragons...Granted, they clear the field, but if your opponent pulls a Five-Headed Dragon with Mirror, this card might help out. Now, I'm not saying I'D run it, seeing as how my Carved Dragons are already at over 40 right now, but people can definitely use this. [/quote] No. You use it for things like Rank 5 and 6s. Seal is meh, and shouldn't be used. You'll only be going into 3 lights (Tiras, Atumus, Ptolemys), and only 1Light Dragon, so no =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｄｈａｒｃ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327121212' post='5773502'] No. You use it for things like Rank 5 and 6s. Seal is meh, and shouldn't be used. You'll only be going into 3 lights (Tiras, Atumus, Ptolemys), and only 1Light Dragon, so no =/ [/quote] ...I'm sorry, but WHAT? I don't run Tiras in mine, and Atumus and Ptolemys are rare summons for me. I always manage to get at least one Ennead per duel (thanks to Holy Carved Seal and Blue-Eyes), or I get TED. It's super easy to do the level 8 engine. That's what the archetype was made for, and it's what it does best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327121212' post='5773502'] No. You use it for things like Rank 5 and 6s. Seal is meh, and shouldn't be used. You'll only be going into 3 lights (Tiras, Atumus, Ptolemys), and only 1Light Dragon, so no =/ [/quote] Perhaps you can explain to me exactly how you think Holy Marks should be run. [quote name='-Dharc-' timestamp='1327121525' post='5773509'] ...I'm sorry, but WHAT? I don't run Tiras in mine, and Atumus and Ptolemys are rare summons for me. I always manage to get at least one Ennead per duel (thanks to Holy Carved Seal and Blue-Eyes), or I get TED. It's super easy to do the level 8 engine. That's what the archetype was made for, and it's what it does best. [/quote] I don't use the Blue-Eyes engine, but I do use Ennead and TED with Ceal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｄｈａｒｃ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Blue-Eyes let me throw three Ennead on the field in one turn. Trust me, it works WONDERS. But this isn't the thread for that. OT:Yeah, it helps with the weaker ones, such as Isis, or when your opponent just pulls out something big and scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='-Dharc-' timestamp='1327121525' post='5773509'] ...I'm sorry, but WHAT? I don't run Tiras in mine, and Atumus and Ptolemys are rare summons for me. I always manage to get at least one Ennead per duel (thanks to Holy Carved Seal and Blue-Eyes), or I get TED. It's super easy to do the level 8 engine. That's what the archetype was made for, and it's what it does best. [/quote] Except no [quote name='Wingal Brave' timestamp='1327121689' post='5773510'] Perhaps you can explain to me exactly how you think Holy Marks should be run. [/quote] Byakk and Aggro's builds are similar to mine Rank 8 variant is bad, and there are better thigns to do =| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｄｈａｒｃ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327122395' post='5773517'] Except no Byakk and Aggro's builds are similar to mine Rank 8 variant is bad, and there are better thigns to do =| [/quote] How, exactly, is Rank 8 variant "bad"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='-Dharc-' timestamp='1327122568' post='5773521'] How, exactly, is Rank 8 variant "bad"? [/quote] You have Ennead, TED, NGEPD, and Number 15 You have 1 truly good target and it's not going to be set off well enoghto do anything most of the time. With other stuff they can be Chaos + Flexibile Rank 5 and 6 spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 As aforementioned Rank 8 engine sucks. I tried it, but it's too insonsistent. 5/6 is way better overall, and they mainly use Volca/Tiras/Adreus/Zenmai-Oh/Exa-Beetle/Ptolemys/Atumus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｄｈａｒｃ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327122731' post='5773523'] You have Ennead, TED, NGEPD, and Number 15 You have 1 truly good target and it's not going to be set off well enoghto do anything most of the time. With other stuff they can be Chaos + Flexibile Rank 5 and 6 spam [/quote] Ugh...Alright, let me tell you something— Ennead tributes and clears specific threats, then allows you to bring back its materials through Marked effects for more Enneads and TEDs. TED does his thing. Galaxy-Eyes and Number 15 are good anti-xyz. Rank 8 Variant sends Blue-Eyes to the grave for Ultimate or simple REDMD targets, it has amazing support with Dragorado, Trade-In, and the like, and it sends cards to the grave quickly for a F.G.D./Five-Headed/Whatever you want to call it. Plus, Rank 8 variant also has plenty of Rank 5's and 6's, what with Volca and Ptolemys and Pleiades, and it gets even more support from Lavalval Chain and Daigusto Emeral. I mean, it is [i]incredibly [/i]versatile. If you know how to run Rank 8, it is [i]incredibly [/i]simple. Now, I'm not bashing Mid-Rank Xyzs, all I'm getting at is that Rank 8 is a viable deck type, and it is what the majority of the monsters' effects revolve around. You know, Relius, you sure are frustrating. There's no talking to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='-Dharc-' timestamp='1327123541' post='5773539'] Ugh...Alright, let me tell you something— Ennead tributes and clears specific threats, then allows you to bring back its materials through Marked effects for more Enneads and TEDs. TED does his thing. Galaxy-Eyes and Number 15 are good anti-xyz. Rank 8 Variant sends Blue-Eyes to the grave for Ultimate or simple REDMD targets, it has amazing support with Dragorado, Trade-In, and the like, and it sends cards to the grave quickly for a F.G.D./Five-Headed/Whatever you want to call it. Plus, Rank 8 variant also has plenty of Rank 5's and 6's, what with Volca and Ptolemys and Pleiades, and it gets even more support from Lavalval Chain and Daigusto Emeral. I mean, it is [i]incredibly [/i]versatile. If you know how to run Rank 8, it is [i]incredibly [/i]simple. Now, I'm not bashing Mid-Rank Xyzs, all I'm getting at is that Rank 8 is a viable deck type, and it is what the majority of the monsters' effects revolve around. You know, Relius, you sure are frustrating. There's no talking to you. [/quote] It's simple minded and inconsistent. You say I can't be talked to... But you're just as, if not more, stubborn. Irony much? Explain to me HOW it's consistent and good when you're running an essentially 0/0 Vanilla @3 and you depend on lucksacking a card to draw 2 that only works if you actually draw into said vanilla? And Rank 4? Geb is pretty bad, tbh. You don't give any reason beon wa you say. The Rank 5/6 Targets are BETTER and more spread out than Rank 8s =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I hope you realize that there are different ways to run the deck, that yours isn't the best. That said, I considered running this in Carved,,, but... [img]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/001/384/Atrapitis.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 If it worked when a LIGHT Dragon-Type battled, instead of being selected as an attack target, it would actually be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ｄｈａｒｃ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 "Can't be talked to" is different than "stubborn/stupid", Mr. Clover. You, on one hand, refuse to acknowledge others' opinions, simply because you see others as being stupid, most likely because of one or a few clever things you said. I, on the other hand, am just stubborn and a blithering idiot. And it's consistent when you run 3 Tefnut, Shu, and Geb, 2 Isis, 3 Gathering, and 2 Supreme Force. With those, You can get something out on most turns. Then, there's also REDMD. Also, Inferno Reckless Summon helps bring out all 3 Seals at once for either TED and Ennead, and in the case of Ennead, you have at least one tribute, not counting what's in your hand or on the field already. Dragorado also helps to bring out Seal, or simply buff other monsters up to Level 8, and boosting them by 800. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 ...I don't get why you would use this over, say, Lumenize in the first place. Both are pretty bad, but... I would rather use Lumenize in all honesty. x_x I guess this makes sure the opponent's monster dies, but... with the 0/0 Carved Dragons you'll lose them anyway. Lumenize still protects them at least. :'o Not saying use either, just... I would prefer Lumenize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 This argument is fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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