Resident Fascist Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Kyosuke Kiryu' timestamp='1328979683' post='5810529'] There isn't much someone can do to Trish + Solemn... [/quote] Veiler the trish, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1328979716' post='5810531'] Veiler the trish, lol. [/quote] We were talking about after you sucessfully get the effect off, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Kyosuke Kiryu' timestamp='1328979683' post='5810529'] There isn't much someone can do to Trish + Solemn... [/quote] Mystical Space Typhoon Cydra monsters Heavy Dark Hole Other boss monsters Take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeal Ascendant Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328979887' post='5810536'] Mystical Space Typhoon Cydra monsters Heavy Dark Hole Other boss monsters Take your pick. [/quote] Except solemn negates like half of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='- Zeal -' timestamp='1328979956' post='5810540'] Except solemn negates like half of those. [/quote] And what happens when you have a combination of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328979887' post='5810536'] Mystical Space Typhoon Cydra monsters Heavy Dark Hole Other boss monsters Take your pick. [/quote] uhh, well for the monsters you can just Solemn and if they MST you, that's great, but more than likely you will have other protection too...[quote name='- Zeal -' timestamp='1328979956' post='5810540'] Except solemn negates like half of those. [/quote]All of them, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Kyosuke Kiryu' timestamp='1328980062' post='5810544'] uhh, well for the monsters you can just Solemn and if they MST you, that's great, but more than likely you will have other protection too... [/quote] "Other protection" You mean stuff that your opponent could have as well? Get it through your head that "Trish" and "Instant win" aren't mutual without the word "loop" somewhere in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328980138' post='5810548'] "Other protection" You mean stuff that your opponent could have as well? [/quote] I'm talking about successfully pulling off Trish's effect. If you're a decent player, then pulling off Trish's effect to rid your opponent of (net) 3 cards, then you should win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 It doesn't guarantee the win. It just gives you an advantage. You can recover from a net 2 loss in advantage (Graveyard not counting, though it can hurt). Not being able to chose from the cards in the hand makes it more plausible. Now if the opponent only has 1 card in hand and only 1 good card on field, then yes the game should probably be done by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plays4days Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328980588' post='5810562'] It doesn't guarantee the win. It just gives you an advantage. You can recover from a net 2 loss in advantage (Graveyard not counting, though it can hurt). Not being able to chose from the cards in the hand makes it more plausible. Now if the opponent only has 1 card in hand and only 1 good card on field, then yes the game should probably be done by then. [/quote] this dude obviously never played Agents before Tour Guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 I'm not saying it means you definitely win, i'm just saying you have to be pretty bad to let it slip. also who the f*** trishes when your opponent has multiple backrows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Except you don't. I've had times where Trish got me the plain advantage, then I get beat down because my protection wasn't enough. Ask Brandon, I trished and he ended the game with C39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328981086' post='5810578'] Except you don't. I've had times where Trish got me the plain advantage, then I get beat down because my protection wasn't enough. Ask Brandon, I trished and he ended the game with C39 [/quote] Not to sound disrespectful to you dude, but your perception of good and mine are very different. By good i'm talking about the so called 'pro players' You rarely see them go for a Trish and then lose the duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plays4days Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 thats because you're really bad. I know you're bad because you lost to Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Part of loops? Just ban the cards that cause the loops and not the random card that happens to be good in the loop. If you're complaining about getting sucker-punched by Trishula, too, keep in mind that you're just being a sore loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Her Scarlet Knight' timestamp='1328981911' post='5810593'] Part of loops? Just ban the cards that cause the loops and not the random card that happens to be good in the loop. If you're complaining about getting sucker-punched by Trishula, too, keep in mind that you're just being a sore loser. [/quote]So waiting 10 hours and not being able to do anything while your hand dies without Veiler in starting hand is fair /ok OT:Traded this in a heartbeat when I pulled it. I'm betting on it being banned, even though I traded it a year ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Evoltile Westlo' timestamp='1328982398' post='5810604'] So waiting 10 hours and not being able to do anything while your hand dies without Veiler in starting hand is fair /ok OT:Traded this in a heartbeat when I pulled it. I'm betting on it being banned, even though I traded it a year ago [/quote] Uhh, yeah, it is. All is fair in love and war, as the saying goes. As far as I know, the game is equal opportunity. You don't factor in fairness, as such a thing doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Her Scarlet Knight' timestamp='1328982547' post='5810608'] Stuff about it being fair [/quote]So why do we have banned, limited, and semi-limited cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Evoltile Westlo' timestamp='1328982600' post='5810611'] So why do we have banned, limited, and semi-limited cards [/quote] [list=1] [*]Konami loves money. It causes people to abandon old decks and go for the newer things. [*]Konami doesn't want to see the same god damn deck top every time. Makes things more interesting. [/list] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Her Scarlet Knight' timestamp='1328982838' post='5810617'][list=1] [*]Konami loves money. It causes people to abandon old decks and go for the newer things. [*]Konami doesn't want to see the same god damn deck top every time. Makes things more interesting. [/list] [/quote] Butt et's all fiar derp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Honestly, you idiots think this is balanced in any way, shape or form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1328983361' post='5810629'] Honestly, you idiots think this is balanced in any way, shape or form? [/quote] No, my argument was that you should be easily able to win the game if you get Trish's effect off successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Yes, actually. It's just retardedly easy to get out with current card pool and rules, and wrecks meta decks. The actual card is cool. And plus, unless it's a loop, it's easy to recover from some of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Kyosuke Kiryu' timestamp='1328983458' post='5810632'] No, my argument was that you should be easily able to win the game if you get Trish's effect off successfully. [/quote] I wasn't referring to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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