Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Player Priority to activate Ignition Effects is an extremely stupid game mechanic and needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1328828182' post='5806873'] Priority is an extremely stupid game mechanic and needs to go. [/quote] [/thread] When is it supposed to die exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='Ctrl+Alt+Win' timestamp='1328828280' post='5806880'] [/thread] When is it supposed to die exactly? [/quote] It was supposed to die months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote]Player Priority to activate Ignition Effects is an extremely stupid game mechanic and needs to go. [/quote] Thank you for editing it fully, sweet plums. It's a mechanic that just doesn't make sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1328828182' post='5806873'] Player Priority to activate Ignition Effects is an extremely stupid game mechanic and needs to go. [/quote] TRUTH!!! Without it, Brionac/BLS/anything else with an Ignition effect can't BS its way around cards like Bottomless Trap Hole and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I want BTH to be good again gtfo smelly priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1328828424' post='5806890'] Thank you for editing it fully, sweet plums. It's a mechanic that just doesn't make sense at all. [/quote] I made the topic, then immediately screamed FAAAWWWWWWKKKKKKKK because I knew some kaffir would correct me. But nobody did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1328828953' post='5806912'] But nobody did [/quote] YCM is evolving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328829019' post='5806919'] YCM is evolving! [/quote] Hey, we where always better than DNF. They said Magical Stone Excavation at 3 would be broken... I havn't seen anyone run MSE for like...4 Years, atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1328829161' post='5806933'] Hey, we where always better than DNF. They said Magical Stone Excavation at 3 would be broken... I havn't seen anyone run MSE for like...4 Years, atleast. [/quote] Have you ever played against Empty Jar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328829201' post='5806939'] Have you ever played against Empty Jar [/quote] no, because it sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 With Card Destruction banned, MSE can go to 3 Making change now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1328829312' post='5806951'] With Card Destruction banned, MSE can go to 3 Making change now. [/quote] But MSE isn't broken at all... It's a -2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1328829373' post='5806953'] But MSE isn't broken at all... It's a -2... [/quote] Minusing yourself leads to nothing when you're about to flip Morphing Jar and replenish your hand. But leave it to the MSE topic. This is the Priority topic. I'm trying to follow the rules and not derail hypothetical banlist topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Ignition Priority is a pain because most people dont seem to verify whether their opponent is going to be using priority and then a DN Admin has to be called. But I recently learned that Ignition Priority is ONLY for the timing of Summoning a monster. When a card effect resolves, Turn Player only has Priority to activate a Spell Speed 2+ effect, and cannot use priority for a Spell Speed 1 effect until the opponent has been passed priority to respond to the action/resolution. Which seems to mean that Dragonfly does have Priority to equip Hornet, but Hornet does not have priority to send itself until the opponent has been passed priority to use a Spell Speed 2 effect to the resolution. If the opponent passes priority, Turn Player can once again use their priority for Spell Speed 1 effects. Which isn't that bad, if I understand it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 but it's still smelly, evilfusion. It basicially lols at any removal that doesn't say "Negate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1328830511' post='5807021'] but it's still smelly, evilfusion. It basicially lols at any removal that doesn't say "Negate" [/quote] I never said it was a good thing. I'm just noting that based on my newer information, some Decks that thrive on spamming Ignition Effects using priority don't work the way I originally thought. It doesn't reduce the threat level of those Decks (by much) or the fact Ignition Priority is overpowered on plenty of cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 The problem with priority is this Cards that activate when the text is "When this card is Summoned" should be right But when we have cards like Brionac with not that condition, people act like it is. Fix your s*** TCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1328831637' post='5807073'] The problem with priority is this Cards that activate when the text is "When this card is Summoned" should be right But when we have cards like Brionac with not that condition, people act like it is. Fix your s*** TCG [/quote] You are aware the OCG also played like this for years, right? The TCG just doesn't seem too keen to force players to re-learn details surrounding the procedure and mechanics they've known for their entire dueling experience, and people who dont have a solid grasp of what constituted "Ignition Priority" vs regular Priority vs Trigger Effects...well, that'd just be a mess. It could be done, but I dont think the TCG judges are too interested in running things that way, seemingly out of the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 It's going to come to TCG eventually. Since they've done it in OCG, new cards coming out will be built around the assumption that they'll be played in a certain format (to some extent, of course), and that format includes no priority. And I can't wait. Bottomless needs to s*** on Brio, DAD, JD, and all the other f***ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1328830406' post='5807015'] Ignition Priority is a pain because most people dont seem to verify whether their opponent is going to be using priority and then a DN Admin has to be called. But I recently learned that Ignition Priority is ONLY for the timing of Summoning a monster. When a card effect resolves, Turn Player only has Priority to activate a Spell Speed 2+ effect, and cannot use priority for a Spell Speed 1 effect until the opponent has been passed priority to respond to the action/resolution. Which seems to mean that Dragonfly does have Priority to equip Hornet, but Hornet does not have priority to send itself until the opponent has been passed priority to use a Spell Speed 2 effect to the resolution. If the opponent passes priority, Turn Player can once again use their priority for Spell Speed 1 effects. Which isn't that bad, if I understand it correctly. [/quote] The Priority for Ignition Effects applies only when a monster is summoned as you say, but this only applies to Ignition Effect monster effects of monsters on the field. This does not apply to Ignition-like Effects of other card types, or to the Ignition Effects of monsters in hand, graveyard or elsewhere. You could never use priority to activate Hornet's effect to destroy a monster, say at the timing of you summoning a different monster. You can use the Ignition ruling to activate any Ignition Monster Effect you control on the field at the timing of a monster's summon, not necessarily the effect of the monster being summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plays4days Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Compulsory is bad because of priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='plays4days' timestamp='1328931528' post='5809778'] Compulsory is bad because of priority [/quote] Not really just not as good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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