Destiny Choose

[WWECENA]

ok guys here is a very good card and confusing at the same time you need to think twice before you activate it so plz comment and tell me what you think



[img]http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9885/104134q.jpg[/img]


effect: When you activate this card you can choose and applies 1 of these effects:
1: Destroy all card you control and inflict 3000 damage to your opponent Life Points.
2: Destroy all card your opponent control and he gain 3000 Life Points.



[size=6]quick note ( i know some of you gonna say i can set 1 card and inflict 3000 damage to my opponent ya you can do that but what if your opponent got about 4 strong monster and you got 1 or 2 and a weak hand will you still destroy all your card to inflict 3000 damage or you gonna destroy all his card and give him the 3000 Life Point that the [/size][size=6]tricky part about this card ) so what will you do ? =_= [/size][size=6] [/size]

[Astolfo]

[color=#000066][b]What are you smoking? Use first effect to destroy like 1 card you control. -3000 for opponent. Put at least a few more restrictions. In late game, this could end it. ._. At least try posting in AoC until you know how to make balanced effects, newer OCG, etc.[/b][/color]

[ragnarok1945]

no way you're going to give your opponent 3000 LP

people are going to choose option 1 all the time

[Astolfo]

[color=#000066][b]>Set 1 of these.
>Activate it next turn.
>Repeat 2 more times[/b][/color]

[color=#000066][b]What if you don't have any of your cards to destroy?[/b][/color]
[color=#000066][b]Even 1 or 2 is a big hit. ._. Besides, +3000 to your opponent is silly, no matter what monsters/cards the opponent has.[/b]

[b]EDIT: Also, learn to use grammar. I mean actual grammar, not just YCM OCG.[/b][/color]

[ragnarok1945]

yeah but when it says destroy all cards you control, that means you only need ONE card on your side of the field to pull the effect off

[Astolfo]

[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1328911974' post='5809069']
yeah but when it says destroy all cards you control, that means you only need ONE card on your side of the field to pull the effect off
[/quote]

[color=#000066][b]No, you don't need it. It doesn't have restrictions. So as long as it's possible to destroy a card, this works. ._.[/b][/color]

[WWECENA]

[quote name='༺Nephilim༻' timestamp='1328912100' post='5809072']
[color=#000066][b]No, you don't need it. It doesn't have restrictions. So as long as it's possible to destroy a card, this works. ._.[/b][/color]
[/quote] no you need 1 card to activate the effect like ragnarok said

[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1328911729' post='5809059']
no way you're going to give your opponent 3000 LP

people are going to choose option 1 all the time
[/quote] so you wanna tell me people are going choose option 1 all the time even if you have a weak hand and a weak monster and your opponent got 3 or 4 strong monster if that what you tell me then i'm sorry to say but that's a noob choose =_= and from the sound of people talking here they are [size=4][font=arial, sans-serif][color=#000000]hasty and don't think before they play their next move [/color][/font][/size]

[ragnarok1945]

because once you've burned your opponent that much it's easier set up for OTK

[Astolfo]

[quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1328913245' post='5809121']
so you wanna tell me people are going choose option 1 all the time even if you have a weak hand and a weak monster and your opponent got 3 or 4 strong monster if that what you tell me then i'm sorry to say but that's a noob choose =_= from the sound of people here they are [font=arial, sans-serif][size=2][color=#000000]hasty and don't think before they play there next move [/color][/size][/font]
[/quote]

[color=#000066][b]*facedesk*[/b][/color]

[color=#000066][b]Why not burn for game, if possible? And calling people noobs is just dumb from the newbie. ._. And even if they have strong monsters, that probably means good deck. By the time they get +3k lifepoints, they'll have another beater(s). Jeez. Why in the world would you give 3k life points? Unless you can attack for game and you're sure they have no Battle Fader etc. .-.[/b]

[b]EDIT: Ninja'd by Rag.[/b][/color]

[Blake]

... Honestly, what the hell.

Upstart Goblin is actually used sometimes. Why? +3000 LP to them for you to get a +3 is worth it.

Card is hideously broken, because it's pure OTK fuel. It's easy to get out 11000+ ATK after a one sided nuke.

Do you just make broken cards for the hell of it? 3000 heal for a one sided nuke is worth it. ._.

The fact it can be a last ditch burn in exchange for blowing up Sangan or w/e is stupid, too.

You need to change what it destroys on both sides of the field to smaller amounts.

Also, inb4antiheal

[quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1328913245' post='5809121']
so you wanna tell me people are going choose option 1 all the time even if you have a wek hand and a weak monster and your opponent got 3 or 4 strong monster if that what you tell me then i'm sorry to say but that's a noob choose =_= and from the sound of people talking here they are [size=4][font=arial, sans-serif][color=#000000]hasty and don't think before they play their next move [/color][/font][/size]
[/quote]
Ragnarok doesn't play, so never, ever listen to him.

[Astolfo]

[color=#000066][b]inb4burndeck *shotgunned multiple times*[/b][/color]

[color=#000066][b]>[b]This[/b][/b][/color]
[color=#000066][b][b]>Windups or any other monster spam deck[/b][/b][/color]
[color=#000066][b][b]>GG[/b][/b][/color]

[ragnarok1945]

[quote name='༺Nephilim༻' timestamp='1328913483' post='5809133']
[color=#000066][b]*facedesk*[/b][/color]

[color=#000066][b]Why not burn for game, if possible? And calling people noobs is just dumb from the newbie. ._. And even if they have strong monsters, that probably means good deck. By the time they get +3k lifepoints, they'll have another beater(s). Jeez. Why in the world would you give 3k life points? Unless you can attack for game and you're sure they have no Battle Fader etc. .-.[/b]

[b]EDIT: Ninja'd by Rag.[/b][/color]
[/quote]

Thius is why I dislike the opponent gaining that much LP, it'll end up being worth the loss even if he does lose the stronger monsters

[WWECENA]

[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1328913459' post='5809132']
because once you've burned your opponent that much it's easier set up for OTK
[/quote] there are many option on when you can use this not only when his life point is 3000 so i can ok and believe or not this card can actually save you at some point


[quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328913765' post='5809151']
Ragnarok doesn't play, so never, ever listen to him.
[/quote] no i was just saying [quote name='༺Nephilim༻' timestamp='1328913483' post='5809133']
[color=#000066][b]*facedesk*[/b][/color]

[color=#000066][b]Why not burn for game, if possible? And calling people noobs is just dumb from the newbie. ._. And even if they have strong monsters, that probably means good deck. By the time they get +3k lifepoints, they'll have another beater(s). Jeez. Why in the world would you give 3k life points? Unless you can attack for game and you're sure they have no Battle Fader etc. .-.[/b]

[b]EDIT: Ninja'd by Rag.[/b][/color]
[/quote] ok here is what happen to me i was playing against a six samurai deck i was first i draw a weak hand all spell and traps ( talking about the luck of the draw lol ) i just set 1 card and end the turn and he was so lucky i got a good hand so he start of by activating gateway of the six the next thing i know he has 5 monster on the field with 2100 ATK it was 1 turn ok for me and i was like WTF six samurai deck can do 1 turn ok =_= and it was the first time it happen to me i was shocked actually never saw this coming lol anyway what i'm saying is if this card is the set card i play what you gonna do you still gonna deal damage or you gonna have to give him the 3000 LP ? that's why i did this card actually

[Sander]

[quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1328913245' post='5809121']
so you wanna tell me people are going choose option 1 all the time even if you have a weak hand and a weak monster and your opponent got 3 or 4 strong monster if that what you tell me then i'm sorry to say but that's a noob choose =_= and from the sound of people talking here they are [font=arial, sans-serif][color=#000000]hasty and don't think before they play their next move [/color][/font]
[/quote]

Because you obviously need to think before you blow up that Sangan that you got with Tour Guide.

EDIT: Obviously you'd use the second effect to destroy all cards your opponent controls if they would OTK you on that turn. Essentially, the card is: Inflict 3k and get a search from a searcher or stop opponent from OTKing and give useless +3k LP.

[WWECENA]

[quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1328915049' post='5809206']
Because you obviously need to think before you blow up that Sangan that you got with Tour Guide.

EDIT: Obviously you'd use the second effect to destroy all cards your opponent controls if they would OTK you on that turn
[/quote] ya of course i will if he gonna otk me this turn i actually don't care about giving him the 3000 LP there is an old saying Live to fight another day in this case Live to fight another turn =_=

[Sander]

[quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1328915842' post='5809240']
ya of course i will if he gonna otk me this turn i actually don't care about giving him the 3000 LP there is an old saying Live to fight another day in this case Live to fight another turn =_=
[/quote]

So you find destroying all cards your opponent controls justifiable if they're going to win? Alright, anybody would, but it isn't justifiable to destroy your opponents cards and still win if you've got a field full of beaters, ie cards like Envoy of the Beginning etc. etc, IE what breaks the card is what it's going to be used for in the meta (clearing field for OTKs).

[thekazu4u]

Listen, this card is even more OP'd than your norm.
1. FTK potential
This card could be used in a magical explosion OTK in place of magical explosion, thus making that deck way more consistent, now they have 4 instead of 1 otk option, and this one does not even need 15 spells in grave. You could even set up something like x2 of this x1 magical explosion for an OTK, which is just plain bad.

2. Uber card advantage
In a non-ftk deck, people would just use this as a super OP'd torrential. It is a harpies feather duster, raigeki, all in one card (not to mention the other effect if you have game) for the minute cost of giving them 3000 LP. That is ONE attack. More and more decks are playing x3 Upstart Goblin these days, and that gives NO card advantage. Now you are making a card that for the same cost would clear their entire field. It would be a staple in ALL decks at 3. You just set this card face down, pound your chest and scream come at me bro. They do anything, their entire field is gone. There is absolutely NO 'tricky part' to this card as you put it. If you have enough damage (monsters + this) for an OTK, then you atk and use this and win. If not, then you just blow up their entire field, give them 3000 LP which you will get back and more in your next turn. (they have a completely empty field that is like 1-2 direct attacks)

In other words, this deck basically reduces them to top decking in one card. Who cares about wind-up loop (unless you play this with that deck and hit their HAND and FIELD, i.e. gg bro) when there is a 1 card that destroys their entire field? Just let them play, pop this card, heal them a tiny bit, and kill them in 1-2 turns while they have no cards to defend. And just in case you think it is a dead card when you are trying to win in one turn and it is a trap, NO, of course not. You set it down and win during their draw phase. All in all it is basically one of the most OP'd cards that would ever be released, worse than pot of greed IMO.

[WWECENA]

[quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1328916772' post='5809276']
So you find destroying all cards your opponent controls justifiable if they're going to win? Alright, anybody would, but it isn't justifiable to destroy your opponents cards and still win if you've got a field full of beaters, ie cards like Envoy of the Beginning etc. etc, IE what breaks the card is what it's going to be used for in the meta (clearing field for OTKs).
[/quote] oh i see


[quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328916859' post='5809282']
Listen, this card is even more OP'd than your norm.
1. FTK potential
This card could be used in a magical explosion OTK in place of magical explosion, thus making that deck way more consistent, now they have 4 instead of 1 otk option, and this one does not even need 15 spells in grave. You could even set up something like x2 of this x1 magical explosion for an OTK, which is just plain bad.

2. Uber card advantage
In a non-ftk deck, people would just use this as a super OP'd torrential. It is a harpies feather duster, raigeki, all in one card (not to mention the other effect if you have game) for the minute cost of giving them 3000 LP. That is ONE attack. More and more decks are playing x3 Upstart Goblin these days, and that gives NO card advantage. Now you are making a card that for the same cost would clear their entire field. It would be a staple in ALL decks at 3. You just set this card face down, pound your chest and scream come at me bro. They do anything, their entire field is gone. There is absolutely NO 'tricky part' to this card as you put it. If you have enough damage (monsters + this) for an OTK, then you atk and use this and win. If not, then you just blow up their entire field, give them 3000 LP which you will get back and more in your next turn. (they have a completely empty field that is like 1-2 direct attacks)

In other words, this deck basically reduces them to top decking in one card. Who cares about wind-up loop (unless you play this with that deck and hit their HAND and FIELD, i.e. gg bro) when there is a 1 card that destroys their entire field? Just let them play, pop this card, heal them a tiny bit, and kill them in 1-2 turns while they have no cards to defend. And just in case you think it is a dead card when you are trying to win in one turn and it is a trap, NO, of course not. You set it down and win during their draw phase. All in all it is basically one of the most OP'd cards that would ever be released, worse than pot of greed IMO.
[/quote] op ok answer this your opponent got 4 monster with 2000 or more ATK and you got 1 weak monster and 1 card in your hand your opponent Life Point is 3500 your Life Point are 6000 and it's your turn what will you do ? and then we gonna see if it op or not

[Astolfo]

[color=#000066][b]To above post:

Use second effect
Use your beaters for should-be game

Jeez. Can't you see this is OP'd? Go post in AoC.[/b][/color]

[thekazu4u]

God. If your opponent has 4 monsters, you have 1, and it is your turn and you draw this. You set this card face down. Now, next turn you follow a very complex algorithm outlined in the following code:

if(opponentsLP <= 3000)
{
useEffect1();
}
else
{
useEffect2();
}

I hope you can understand that.

RESULTS:
if they have less than 3000, one card won you the game
if they have more than 3000, you just got a +3. And if they try to summon more, then you got a +4 etc... you went from being behind terribly to being actually in the lead (you have a monster out and are about to draw because this card essentially ends their turn, while they have nothing)

EDIT:
You can't come up with a position where you are already losing terribly and say LOOK my card did not win me the game, it must be balanced. In this case however, you gave me a position where you were losing terrible and the card DID win the game, so all you can say is LOOK my card took me from a -3 position into a +2 where my opponent is top decking.

[WWECENA]

[quote name='༺Nephilim༻' timestamp='1328918066' post='5809326']
[color=#000066][b]To above post:

Use second effect
Use your beaters for should-be game

Jeez. Can't you see this is OP'd? Go post in AoC.[/b][/color]
[/quote] i never posted a card in Aoc and i never will



[quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328918459' post='5809340']
God. If your opponent has 4 monsters, you have 1, and it is your turn and you draw this. You set this card face down. Now, next turn you follow a very complex algorithm outlined in the following code:

if(opponentsLP <= 3000)
{
useEffect1();
}
else
{
useEffect2();
}

I hope you can understand that.

RESULTS:
if they have less than 3000, one card won you the game
if they have more than 3000, you just got a +3. And if they try to summon more, then you got a +4 etc... you went from being behind terribly to being actually in the lead (you have a monster out and are about to draw because this card essentially ends their turn, while they have nothing)

EDIT:
You can't come up with a position where you are already losing terribly and say LOOK my card did not win me the game, it must be balanced. In this case however, you gave me a position where you were losing terrible and the card DID win the game, so all you can say is LOOK my card took me from a -3 position into a +2 where my opponent is top decking.
[/quote] you didn't answer just like i thought here is the situation may be you didn't understand what i was saying this card already on the field you draw and you now in main phase 1 here is what gonna happen if you destroy all your card to deal damage your opponent LP gonna be 500 and you gonna be otk next turn or you can destroy all his card and his LP gonna be 6500 and you gonna have fighting chance so what will you choose that was my question

[thekazu4u]

In case you did not notice, I actually DID answer. If they have less than 3000 then you use the first effect, otherwise you use the 2nd. how can you not understand this simple fact.

[Astolfo]

[color=#000066][b]._. WWECENA, actually consider your cards for a minute. They aren't good enough to belong in RC. At all. AoC is too much for this. Learn to balance before you make cards. Jeez. Ok. Spamfest over.[/b][/color]

[TheEffinZ]

[left]this card and Nurse Reficule the Fallen One = epic combo[/left]

[thekazu4u]

[quote name='HiZOMBIRyouken' timestamp='1328922376' post='5809478']
[left]this card and Nurse Reficule the Fallen One = epic combo[/left]
[/quote]
this card and + nothing = epic combo lol. That is called not being balanced.