drcrisis Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [img]http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/2746/458314i.jpg[/img] [size=5][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]You can discard 1 card: target 1 banished monster; Roll a six-sided die. If you roll a 1 or 6: Special Summon the targetted monster to your side of the field, AND you may activate this card's effect once again this turn.[/font][/size] [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif][size=5]Good for D Fiss and Gates[/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Erm the discarding effect reads like a cost. And it is a bit too hard to get off considering it is LVL 5. At least let it get the effect off once when it (itself) is discarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcrisis Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif][size=5][color=#008000]No... This is a free Brron[/color][/size][/font] [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif][size=5][color=#008000]every turn that is fairly hard to take down. It's ment for saving yourself from Dimensional Fissure or getting back from Gates of the Dark World.[/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyng's Old Account Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 OCG Fix: [size=4][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]You can discard 1 card: target 1 banished monster; Roll a six-sided die. If you roll a 1: Special Summon the targetted monster to your side of the field, AND you may activate this card's effect once again this turn.[/font][/size] [size=4][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]I think it's not too shabby, especially for a Lv 5. Nice work.[/font][/size] [size=4][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Also, stop multi-posting.[/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcrisis Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Fixxed, and sorry for multi-post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101100111000 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 For being a DW card, it doesn't benefit DW effects whatsoever. As for the SSing, it could help for SSing Grapha from your Grave. That is, if you roll a 1. Point being, not a great card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcrisis Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Fixxed, 1 or 6 now. Changes are final, unless I see an idea that is honestly amazing:D I LOVE SUGGESTIONS GUYS. RANT. SUPPORT. ANYTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101100111000 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Um, discarding isn't a condition so... "Once per turn: You can discard 1 card to target 1 banished monster; roll a six-sided die. If the result is 1 or 6: Special Summon the target to your side of the field, then you can activate this effect again." This is better. I still don't like that discarding is the activation cost, as this doesn't allow DWs like Grapha or Ceruli to activate their effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcrisis Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 How do I word it so it would bring out Grapha, Sillva, and Goldd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 it's fine for summoning the banished monsters this way however I would say 1 thing if you get a 1 or 6 and activate the effect a second time that if the 2nf dice roll lands on 2, 3, 4, or 5, you must destroy this card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101100111000 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1329090909' post='5813371'] it's fine for summoning the banished monsters this way however I would say 1 thing if you get a 1 or 6 and activate the effect a second time that if the 2nf dice roll lands on 2, 3, 4, or 5, you must destroy this card [/quote] How about nothing happens and he discarded a card for nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 nothing happens is boring, it should have SOMETHING happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101100111000 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1329091108' post='5813382'] nothing happens is boring, it should have SOMETHING happen [/quote] He's already discarding a card. Mind you, if he discards a DW, nothing happens because its a cost, not a result of a cost. So he loses a potential DW effect for something that MIGHT happen. I think that's good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Introducing, a better version of this card (that is already printed)! I am sure you are all want to see it as much as I do... [SPOILER The Card] It starts with a D. [SPOILER Show it to me] Im not showing it already... [SPOILER ...] Fine. Here it is. It has a period after that D. [SPOILER I would have never guessed.] Is that wit? NVM, there is another D after that first D. [SPOILER Wow radical, another D.D. that has a Banishment related effect] You guessed it. Another period after the 2nd D. [SPOILER Show me the card already!] Nope. [SPOILER PLEASEEE!] U sure? Ill tell Kazu you begged me. [SPOILER Fine. Tell Kazu Whatever you want.] K then. Click the next spoiler and Ill show you [SPOILER Ok...] Haha tricket you! [SPOILER WTF??? Show it already] Ok fine. Here. [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080830025749/yugioh/images/2/22/DDM-DifferentDimensionMasterSDDE-EN-C-1E.png[/img] Happy? Now I am off to trolling someone else. [/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER] No but seriously. Why would you even use a 1/3 chance card when there is one that is guaranteed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101100111000 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 True, the only disadvantage is the discarding a Spell, which isn't a disadvantage at all (LIGHT Spellcaster is no biggie). Good job Kazu, now he can make this card better without OP'ing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Protip: make it occur on discard (of itself) or make discard not a cost and then all this works groovily. Currently, this is working better with Fableds than w/ DW IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101100111000 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 "Once per turn: You can discard 1 card to target 1 banished monster; roll a six-sided die. If the result is 1 or 6: Special Summon the target to your side of the field, then you can activate this effect again." to Once per turn: You can target 1 banished monster; roll a six-sided die. If the result is 1 or 6: Discard 1 card and Special Summon the target to your side of the field, then you can activate this effect again." Better? Moved/squeezed the discard to the result of the die-roll, allowing DW effects to activate. Personally, this makes the effect better. I doubt anyone disagrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1329111573' post='5814219'] Protip: make it occur on discard (of itself) or make discard not a cost and then all this works groovily. Currently, this is working better with Fableds than w/ DW IMO. [/quote] This is terrible in Fableds, and you should never, EVER say Fableds can use something just because it discards. EVER. The card is fairly bad, all things considered. It requires a tribute summon, normally, or using reborn or something of the sort to get it out. Then there's the fact it only has a 33% chance of actually WORKING, when you're already summoning it by tributing something that is BETTER to bounce for Grapha. It's just too risky to waste a normal summon on a 2300 ATK monster (Gates counted) that might not even work, thus becoming a -1, when it's gonna max out as a +0. Honestly, Dark Worlds and Fableds both have better things to do with their space than this. Needs to be easier to summon and have a higher chance of success, though you could easily break it. On top of that, you need to change the text to "Discard 1 card AND roll a die" to make it work with Dark Worlds. And why isn't it named after a color? ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 >Says this is good in Fableds. >Snipe Hunter is better, yet is also not used much. Made me lul again RC. I find it funny that a card that could special summon the monster it's discarding when the discarded monster is already summoning itself is considered good. Dark Worlds don't work with costs. Only effects. Card is terrible on the soul fact that not only does it not actually do anything useful that couldn't be done by other cards, but that it only has a 33% chance of working AND is a tribute summon monster with little attack in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329113546' post='5814246'] >Says this is good in Fableds. >Snipe Hunter is better, yet is also not used much. [/quote] I never said this is good in Fableds, I said it is BETTER in fableds than in DW. There is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 (In Fabled) Cold Enchanter >> Snipe Hunter >> OP's card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Cold Enchanter is not better than snipe hunter, are you high? ._. Snipe hunter isn't great but Cold Enchanter's crap. Now don't derail topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 ...why did the TC made the discard a cost? ._. It's a Level 5 monster as well, so I'd not run it because it's too slow ._. Seriously, you could make it a Level 4 monster, change it so that the discard is an effect, and take out the awful die roll and make it only summon Fiend-Type monsters and make them self-destruct at the End Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1329133506' post='5814412'] ...why did the TC made the discard a cost? ._. It's a Level 5 monster as well, so I'd not run it because it's too slow ._. Seriously, you could make it a Level 4 monster, change it so that the discard is an effect, and take out the awful die roll and make it only summon Fiend-Type monsters and make them self-destruct at the End Phase. [/quote] This. And also make a when this card is discarded effect to top it all off if you really wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1329133506' post='5814412'] ...why did the TC made the discard a cost? ._. It's a Level 5 monster as well, so I'd not run it because it's too slow ._. Seriously, you could make it a Level 4 monster, change it so that the discard is an effect, and take out the awful die roll and make it only summon Fiend-Type monsters and make them self-destruct at the End Phase. [/quote] You should know better than that. It's just begging for +s with Grapha, and it won't even explode in the EP =/ It's not really balanced no matter what you do. It's either an advantage generating machine or really bad. There's no in between, because Lv. 4 breaks it and Lv. 5+ makes it unplayable. No idea how to change it without compromising its integrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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