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Let us discuss glorious Communism, Comrades and drink to our glorious new Utopia !
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No but seriously, should we consider having Communist states instead of our current Capitalist states ? Or as they say, In Eastern Europe, you struggle to gain enough money for food and bedwife. WHILE IN SOVIET RUSSIA, food and bedwife struggle to get money for YOU.

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[quote name='CM Renji' timestamp='1330639260' post='5850399']
[color=#ff0000]Yes comrades. Ve must speak like the Heavy, and make our various sentences one with the Motherland by coloring zem red. IS GOOD DAY TO BE COMMUNIST![/color]
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[font=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif][color=#ff0000]EVERYDAY IS GOOD DAY TO BE COMMUNIST. Love how hardly anyone knows what Communism actually is.[/color][/font]

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Wiki attack go!
"[i]Communism is a [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social"]social[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political"]political[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy"]economic[/url] ideology that aims at the establishment of a [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_society"]classless[/url], moneyless, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateless_society"]stateless[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_society"]socialist society[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_and_superstructure"]structured[/url] upon [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ownership"]common ownership[/url] of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Means_of_production"]means of production[/url]."[/i]

Which disputably few communist states actually accomplished.

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[quote name='Garazza' timestamp='1330642032' post='5850475']
i hate communism. the very priciple of it is wrong. you know what happened to russia. you know its bad.
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You are genuinely ridiculous.

> Russia gets communism wrong
> Communism's principle is bad

Communism is an extremely complex concept and the only reason it's never been done properly is because it's difficult to pull off.

Of all things, it's capitalism that's stupid.

Also, you [b]cannot [/b]just associate communism with Russia lol.

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Just because it's hard to get right doesn't mean its principles are wrong or immoral. It's essentially full economic equality. The reason it's never worked in the past is because governments tie this economic ideology in with governmental policies, leading to major hypocrisy, and frankly, a lack of real Communism.

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[quote name='Psaro' timestamp='1330645163' post='5850635']
Just because it's hard to get right doesn't mean its principles are wrong or immoral. It's essentially full economic equality. The reason it's never worked in the past is because governments tie this economic ideology in with governmental policies, leading to major hypocrisy, and frankly, a lack of real Communism.
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People are also skeptic because a lot of so-called Communisms in the past have greatly limited personal freedoms.

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like i said before, i hate communism. and yes i am skeptical of it because communism in the past wasn't true communism and im the person that associates everything under vague catagories. capitalism is working just fine for america. if some other country wants to attempt real communism and not what the russians did, go right ahead.

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[quote name='Psaro' timestamp='1330646804' post='5850708']
Communism isn't political, so true Communism wouldn't harm your speech, religion, press, etc. Like I said, it's a completely economic movement, it's just that communist governments were entirely hypocritical and treated communism as a political movement.
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Yeah, but I'm still not convinced America has the intelligence and more importantly, self-control to do it wouth injecting a political movement into it.

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[quote]Yeah, but I'm still not convinced America has the intelligence and more importantly, self-control to do it wouth injecting a political movement into it. [/quote]

america will make it a political movement. they make everything a political movement.

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[quote name='Comrade Trollestia' timestamp='1330647573' post='5850756']


Yeah, but I'm still not convinced America has the intelligence and more importantly, self-control to do it wouth injecting a political movement into it.
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Yeah, but I'm still not convinced America has the intelligence and more importantly, self-control to do it wouth injecting a political movement into it.
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I'm pretty sure NO country has the self-control to do it, to be honest.

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Communisim never works. You always get that one lazy asshat who contributes nothing to society and just leeches the governmental cheques. Eventually people get angry that that guy gets the same pay they do while he does nothing. People stop working and expect their money just like every other lazy leech and your whole economy colapses.

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[quote name='TheAlchemist' timestamp='1330745523' post='5853300']
I am vs communism cuz im a christain so im not allowed into communism.
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First of all... Communism isn't a religion unless your one of those dumbass belief cherrypicking christians who spend their time making up crap about stuff they don't like IE TEA PARTY! F*cking hicks.

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[quote name='Cronus' timestamp='1330757132' post='5853633']
First of all... Communism isn't a religion unless your one of those dumbass belief cherrypicking christians who spend their time making up crap about stuff they don't like IE TEA PARTY! F*cking hicks.
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Either way with Marx's theory, you think it was just too far ahead of its time?

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