El Majishan Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Ok so I'm in love with the archtype (mostly for the card art) and I'm currently working on building it IRL (just need rabbits...if anyone has them pm me). My question is this...is the deck just the loop or would it be still be playable at a competitive level when Konami eventually does something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Unless they hit Zenmaity, Wind-ups should still function efficiently as a deck, and even if they do, Wind-Up Shark will still make the deck usable, if only in the same way Six Sams are usable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1331970133' post='5874553'] Unless they hit Zenmaity, Wind-ups should still function efficiently as a deck, and even if they do, Wind-Up Shark will still make the deck usable, if only in the same way Six Sams are usable. [/quote] Chances are they will put Zenmaity to one..so no more herp derp loop summons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Kurono Kei' timestamp='1331970899' post='5874557'] Chances are they will put Zenmaity to one..so no more herp derp loop summons. [/quote] But they will still have herp derp Shark, Magician and Factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1331971557' post='5874560'] But they will still have herp derp Shark, Magician and Factory. [/quote] Very True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I've always played Wind-Ups without making the loop, and they've always been strong. But since the Xyz build can just tech a Hunter and then make the loop, you can virutally run both versions at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 You mad? Without the loop, the deck would actually take skill to play! And you know how Konami thinks about Decks that require skill to win with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 The deck isn't viable in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 You've got to be either naive or stupid to honestly think Wind-Ups are in no way viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1331997890' post='5874773'] You've got to be either naive or stupid to honestly think Wind-Ups are in no way viable. [/quote] or you just suck at detecting the most [i]obvious [/i]of trolls. also it's called XyzSpamWindUps. Put the loop in there too and you have a hilariously stupid deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1331997972' post='5874774'] or you just suck at detecting the most [i]obvious [/i]of trolls. also it's called XyzSpamWindUps. Put the loop in there too and you have a hilariously stupid deck. [/quote] 1. Irony is a cruel mistress. 2. You did read what I said right? 3. People do actually seem to think Wind-Ups aren't viable, with no good reason to think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1331998144' post='5874779'] 1. Irony is a cruel mistress. [b]Yes, she is.[/b] 2. You did read what I said right? 3. People do actually seem to think Wind-Ups aren't viable, with no good reason to think so. [b]Because they're bad at yugioh.[/b] [/quote] Anyway, Wind-Up shark is an evil thing. Also windup boat is evil. how will they go about hitting them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 So, basically, you're defending Jack by calling him a "troll"? So basically you're saying I shouldn't respond because he's smart enough to act stupid. Yeah, you're giving him too much credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1331998432' post='5874786'] So, basically, you're defending Jack by calling him a "troll"? So basically you're saying I shouldn't respond because he's smart enough to act stupid. Yeah, you're giving him too much credit. [/quote] no ._. Jack's post was obvs trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1331999604' post='5874810'] no ._. Jack's post was obvs trolling [/quote] Because it's impossible for Jack to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1331999680' post='5874814'] Because it's impossible for Jack to be wrong. [/quote] ok this has gone out of hand. We should stop this silly argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 evilchris is the only person left with any sense around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1331999919' post='5874819'] evilchris is the only person left with any sense around here. [/quote] It doesn't help when I'm confused. I stated that Jack's post saying wind-ups where bad as a troll post because they're [i]obviously [/i]in the top 3 decks right now, and then ??? Would someone please explain to me what is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1332000011' post='5874824'] It doesn't help when I'm confused. I stated that Jack's post saying wind-ups where bad as a troll post because they're [i]obviously [/i]in the top 3 decks right now, and then ??? Would someone please explain to me what is going on? [/quote] You basically decided to defend Jack after I called him out when you were actually agreeing with me. YCM needs to stop thinking Jack's flawless; He isn't. He can say things that aren't right sometimes. "Trolling" gets someone no where in this discussion, if he can't back up his claim then it holds no merit anyway, which most members on YCM need to understand. They'll blindly agree with what the "good" player say, without even trying to oppose their opinion, or question it in any way. Questioning, and being sceptical help you get better at this game, not just agreeing with the "pros". Oh and seeing as he isn't annoying anyone, since such a statement couldn't, it's a disprovable opinion, he isn't being a very good troll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1332000511' post='5874830'] You basically decided to defend Jack after I called him out when you were actually agreeing with me. YCM needs to stop thinking Jack's flawless; He isn't. He can say things that aren't right sometimes. "Trolling" gets someone no where in this discussion, if he can't back up his claim then it holds no merit anyway, which most members on YCM need to understand. They'll blindly agree with what the "good" player say, without even trying to oppose their opinion, or question it in any way. Questioning, and being sceptical help you get better at this game, not just agreeing with the "pros". Oh and seeing as he isn't annoying anyone, since such a statement couldn't, it's a disprovable opinion, he isn't being a very good troll... [/quote] Oh ok. I apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1331997890' post='5874773'] You've got to be either naive or stupid to honestly think Wind-Ups are in no way viable. [/quote] [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1331999604' post='5874810'] no ._. Jack's post was obvs trolling [/quote] Jack's definition of viable is different from yours. In an extremely competitive mindset, viable means something that will consistently place well at a YCS. Wind-Ups are not this. He wasn't trolling at all. Oh and the loop is hardly ever pulled off so yeah ofc the deck works without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Why must YCM have loldrama? I'm out of high school for a reason. OT: Is it bad that I've never been put on the loop? Am I missing anything important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Its not pulled off because in a format where every deck runs 4 cards which shut you down in which you've dedicated to the board and will now lose because of it, its too risky. The deck can pull it off 90% of the time in turbo decks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 9 Wind-Ups top 32'd at Guadalajara. 9 at Atlanta 4 at Leipzig Nope, they don't hold top spots whatsoever. Apparently the most versatile Xyz spam deck of the format is still bad even after that. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1332000892' post='5874839'] OT: Is it bad that I've never been put on the loop? Am I missing anything important? [/quote] I have. It's a terrible feeling that you have to wait another 15 minutes before your turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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