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Is it Possible to Escape the Friend Zone?


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I'm in a bit of a predicament right now with a girl who I've known for years. I like her, and I'm definitely an improvement over the last few guys she dated. Not in terms of physical appearance, but actually caring about her. They gave her a lot of s*** to deal with and one of them is still giving her s*** after about a year.
I asked her out last year and she shot me down because she only saw me as a friend. Recently we've been getting closer and I wanted to make a move, but I know she still sees me the same way. My cousin gave me advice on escaping the friend zone, but to me it sounded like if I did it I would end up becoming a manipulative douchebag.
So can I escape the friend zone without becoming a manipulative douche?

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Oh, you're another one of those "nice guys" who just doesn't get why the girl he likes dates so many douchebags.

Look, make your interest in her known. If she still isn't in to you- guess what? She's not into you! Maybe you are truly a nice person! Maybe you'd treat her awesome! Doesn't matter, she doesn't want to date you!

The "friend zone" is bullshit. It's not that she can only see you as a friend, it's that she isn't attracted to you in that way. You need to accept that and move on.

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It is impossible to escape the friendzone, trust me. Once you are in, you are in. You may think of yourself as a nice and caring guy, but trust me, girls may say that they want a nice guy, but when they find one they only want to be friends with them. The only way to get a girl is to act as a manipulative douche, maybe only in the beginning to make her like you, then you can be nice to her and treat her well.

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[quote name='Anonymous00' timestamp='1332970982' post='5892829']
It is impossible to escape the friendzone, trust me. Once you are in, you are in. You may think of yourself as a nice and caring guy, but trust me, girls may say that they want a nice guy, but when they find one they only want to be friends with them. The only way to get a girl is to act as a manipulative douche, maybe only in the beginning to make her like you, then you can be nice to her and treat her well.
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Every mind is a world, there are many different scenarios. You may be lucky and escape or just get tired and give up, consequently getting someone else. Or maybe just end up as a fat loner playing video games all day with "VIRGIN" written all over your fronthead.

Just please don't state everything as a fact.

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[quote name='♣ ÇhrÍstmás ΤЯξЄ ♣' timestamp='1332986119' post='5893202']
Every mind is a world, there are many different scenarios. You may be lucky and escape or just get tired and give up, consequently getting someone else. Or maybe just end up as a fat loner playing video games all day with "VIRGIN" written all over your fronthead.

Just please don't state everything as a fact.
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Then why are we arguing in the first place? If there's no answer why should we ask the question?

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