Azuh Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332880899' post='5891240'] That's impossible, these cards are anti-meta at least. Question: How are they anti-meta? [/quote] Anti Meta cannot be Meta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1332881005' post='5891245'] Anti Meta cannot be Meta? [/quote]That would defeat the purpose of calling it meta. And it would be made to stop all other Decks in the meta essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1332874574' post='5891094'] Ok go back to playing Dino Rabbit thenWe'll see what happens in a few sets time when these will become meta [/quote] I will gladly play to win, and even on that note you realise that I main Heroes and Dark Worlds, right? And how the f*** does an inconsistent deck with nothing spectacular in terms of support become meta? There are so many decks that would be meta before these, and if it reaches the point where all of those are on the banlist then the game becomes too slow and loses half of its appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332881083' post='5891248'] That would defeat the purpose of calling it meta. And it would be made to stop all other Decks in the meta essentially. [/quote] All they need is 1 card and Madolces can become an abusive loop engine. Konami knows how to make it and when it is made, people would probably stop dick riding their Inzektors and play the loop.Its like Lavals. Without their 7x Foolish Burial they are nothing special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1332874574' post='5891094'] Ok go back to playing Dino Rabbit thenWe'll see what happens in a few sets time when these will become meta [/quote] [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332881213' post='5891257'] I will gladly play to win, and even on that note you realise that I main Heroes and Dark Worlds, right? [/quote]Yeah, Chris is too poor to possibly play Dino Rabbit! @Chris's second comment: Um, we ARE talking about a few packs down the line here. You know just because their support is meh right now doesn't mean it will always be. Just because there are a lot of decks right now that could be Meta before Madolces does not mean they will be. What if Madolces receive the best support over and over for the next 3 packs? Suddenly you look like a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332881423' post='5891269'] Yeah, Chris is too poor to possibly play Dino Rabbit![/quote] I'm too poor to afford Yugioh, period. [quote]@Chris's second comment: Um, we ARE talking about a few packs down the line here. You know just because their support is meh right now doesn't mean it will always be. Just because there are a lot of decks right now that could be Meta before Madolces does not mean they will be. What if Madolces receive the best support over and over for the next 3 packs? Suddenly you look like a fool. [/quote] They'd need a revamp on a lot of the monsters for that to happen. As a speculation we can assume they will never be meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332881423' post='5891269'] What if Madolces receive the best support over and over for the next 3 packs? Suddenly you look like a fool. [/quote] I didn't know you could read the future. Guys, stop stroking your e-penises for a moment. AT THE MOMENT, key word here is moment, Madolce are a bad/mediocre archetype. We are talking about an archetype that may get a TCG Exclusive, as well as more support in later packs. [i]May. [/i]At the moment, they are bad and any card related to them can be considered bad because the entire archetype suffers from a lack of consistency, and no real(from what I can see) deck goal. No one here knows what the TCG exclusives for REDU are, and the pack after may give us new Madolce support. But for now, they are a bad archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332881545' post='5891275'] They'd need a revamp on a lot of the monsters for that to happen. As a speculation we can assume they will never be meta. [/quote]They don't need a revamp, they just need broken support. It's not hard to do either. Hell, we could get a stupidly broken TCG exclusive for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332881658' post='5891281'] They don't need a revamp, they just need broken support. It's not hard to do either. Hell, we could get a stupidly broken TCG exclusive for all we know. [/quote] How the f*** will any support allow Madolces to amount to anything that resembles the power of Rabbit, Inzektors, Wind-Ups? Hell, even Dark Worlds, HEROes or Ninjas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 There must be some OTK loop with this and Madelaine, somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Shard, stop stroking your e-penis against Chris's. Same thing happened with Wind-Ups. Its bound to happen here. I don't understand why every archetype that pops up is suddenly terrible just because they just got released. You don't have to be such a troll and just say for now that they're only good casually, for god sake people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332881884' post='5891290'] How the f*** will any support allow Madolces to amount to anything that resembles the power of Rabbit, Inzektors, Wind-Ups? Hell, even Dark Worlds, HEROes or Ninjas? [/quote]You obviously haven't thought about it, which is why no one else is listening to you. OT: Hopefully further support won't be like THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1332881947' post='5891295'] Shard, stop stroking your e-penis against Chris's. [/quote] I'm not, for god sake. Am I not allowed my own damn f***ing opinion around here?! Read my post again, I said at the moment they're bad, they could recieve later support in sets. Then read Chris's posts and they have nothing in common with mine apart from the fact I'm saying that they're not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332881884' post='5891290'] How the f*** will any support allow Madolces to amount to anything that resembles the power of Rabbit, Inzektors, Wind-Ups? Hell, even Dark Worlds, HEROes or Ninjas? [/quote] Guess what mate, those decks received support in later packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1332882185' post='5891306'] Guess what mate, those decks received support in later packs. [/quote]Except Rabbit... Rabbit is 4 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332882254' post='5891310'] Except Rabbit... Rabbit is 4 cards. [/quote]And the Inzektors support kinda sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332882254' post='5891310'] Except Rabbit... Rabbit is 4 cards. [/quote] Technically Rabbit is support for a dead card type, Normal Monsters just used abusively for Xyzs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1332882185' post='5891306'] Guess what mate, those decks received support in later packs. [/quote] Yup. Except they had a strong basis to begin with that only needed a minor addition. (Except HEROes but HEROes as a deck basically came from 2 cards and the omnis, but they're a very specific case due to their playstyle.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Pacmanexus' timestamp='1332882329' post='5891314'] And the Inzektors support kinda sucked. [/quote]Well Inzektors started off with 3 Broken cards... so yeah. [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1332882362' post='5891317'] Technically Rabbit is support for a dead card type, Normal Monsters just used abusively for Xyzs [/quote]If we base it off of this, we can basically assume it would take 2-3 cards to make Madolces Tier 1 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332882409' post='5891319'](Except HEROes but HEROes as a deck basically came from 2 cards and the omnis, but they're a very specific case due to their playstyle.) [/quote]And how is that any different than what we're suggeting about Madolces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332882464' post='5891321'] Well Inzektors started off with 3 Broken cards... so yeah. If we base it off of this, we can basically assume it would take 2-3 cards to make Madolces Tier 1 [/quote] Basically all Madolce needs is a monster that Special Summons another Madolce when its returned to the Deck and you possibly have a loop right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332882575' post='5891321'] And how is that any different than what we're suggeting about Madolces? [/quote] Name me some good Madolce cards that could work well together, allowing one to build a deck around them, with what will likely be balanced support, if any, and explain how it would work. It seems incredibly far-fetched. Possible, yes, but the likelihood is very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Madolces has ATM and Incomplete Loop with Brionac and their Field Spell and that thing only needs 1 Madolce monster to be done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='-Lightray Daedalus-' timestamp='1332882699' post='5891329'] Madolces has ATM and Incomplete Loop with Brionac and their Field Spell and that thing only needs 1 Madolce monster to be done... [/quote] Explain how this loop works. What happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 A loop doesn't make a deck good. Just look at Infernities at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332882690' post='5891327'] Name me some good Madolce cards that could work well together, allowing one to build a deck around them, with what will likely be balanced support, if any, and explain how it would work. It seems incredibly far-fetched. Possible, yes, but the likelihood is very low. [/quote]Puddingcess. A Stratos. And Chateau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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