JordanPark24 Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 I just had this conversation with a fellow duelist who said he was going to start scaling packs, and I was a little put off by that statement. Yes, I know some collectors do scale packs, but is it morally right? I know asking a forum about morals will probably get me a lot of backlash, but I'm just wondering what you guys think. Does it even the playing field for collectors, or does it steal opportunities from the people who buy regular packs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeal Ascendant Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 This should go in TCG... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Moved. And personally, I scale packs. Stores see no problem with it. Therefore, I don't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 What's wrong with it? You're improving your odds with initiative. You're not stealing in any way, shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 It is bad that I have no clue what this means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 [quote name='Pacmanexus' timestamp='1333762895' post='5904532'] It is bad that I have no clue what this means? [/quote] Weighing the packs because foils (that aren't ulti iirc) weigh more than regular rares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Cards weigh more or less depending on their foil (i.e. rarity). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 I don't see a problem with it. It's simply a loophole usable by collectors more experienced with the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 The problem is actually buying packs in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 [quote name='Pacmanexus' timestamp='1333762895' post='5904532'] It is bad that I have no clue what this means? [/quote] Super and secret rare cards weight more due to their foil, thus making the pack weigh more. If you have a sensitive enough scale, you can tell which ones have them. However, due to the embossing, ultimate rares actually weight less, iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 I think it's fine, I would do it...but the only 2 card shops in this entire province (like a state but bigger) keep their cards behind a counter, so no scaling there. Unless you go and ask "Hey, is it okay if I weight these cards?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 I'd do that if I owned a store, to make sure the rude/cocky players didn't get the good packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1333766964' post='5904650'] I'd do that if I owned a store, to make sure the rude/cocky players didn't get the good packs. [/quote] So much win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Save your money and dont buy packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 My friend and I scaled...but now we think Order of Chaos packs are rigged. The scale was PERFECT with Photon Shockwave. But with Order of Chaos, it was all out of whack yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 It's not stealing unless you take the back into the Wal-Mart bathroom and open it there, then walk out. Because the cards themselves do not have barcodes. I do not condone this btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1333777461' post='5904804'] My friend and I scaled...but now we think Order of Chaos packs are rigged. The scale was PERFECT with Photon Shockwave. But with Order of Chaos, it was all out of whack yo. [/quote] i agree, some ORCS boxes had less holos than regular boxes, me and my friend had that happen with our ORCS boxes OT: like Damage Inc. my local store has their cards behind the counter, and they don't allow scaling of packs at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Most shops do this. I dunno if it can be called stealing per se, but it's blatant dishonesty to cherry-pick a box of its holos and to proceed to sell the remaining packs as if they had anywhere near the value of unscaled packs. If you must buy packs, get them from special editions or better yet, sealed boxes. Then you can scale the packs yourself and turn your own profits if you can sell off the packs without holos somehow. This is why aggregations of packs sell for so much less per pack than boxes, scaling's not quite universal knowledge but it's close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1333777461' post='5904804'] My friend and I scaled...but now we think Order of Chaos packs are rigged. The scale was PERFECT with Photon Shockwave. But with Order of Chaos, it was all out of whack yo. [/quote] ...my scaling is the exact opposite. I'm 12/12 on ORCS scales. I'm 4/10 on Shockwave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Topc should be changed to "Pack Rigging" because when I bend packs I almost always get amazing stuff. Unless the store has them behind the counter, then I go buy MtG cards instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 I should go buy a scale, I live near a lot of stores like Wal Mart o3o then I can go resell the pulls at my locals... cooooool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 [quote name='Cifer' timestamp='1333801278' post='5904904'] ...my scaling is the exact opposite. I'm 12/12 on ORCS scales. I'm 4/10 on Shockwave... [/quote] It's odd. We had a pack with only a rare weigh 20.12. Then another pack with only a rare weigh 20.50. And all the foils were random in between. Like, wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 guise how do I scale hidden arsenal packs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarcastiXDevil Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 You don't scale HA. Rarity distribution between the packs is all the same: 4 Super + 1 Secret, unlike in regular packs. If there's any difference in weight it'll be minute that it might actually ve an error in your scale. I never buy packs anyway, but I might 'borrow' a scale from my school's lab and buy some packs to prove the theory myself. As a starting point, what's the average weight of a regular booster without foil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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