byak Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 [img]http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/5180/1204110536c6ee6f6849120.jpg[/img] REDU-JP0?? Soul Drain Trap - Continuous Pay 1000 Life Points to activate. (When this card is face-up on the field, the effect of monsters that are removed from game or in Graveyard(?) cannot be activate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Ehhhhhhhhhhh. Eh. I'm probably missing something big, but I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]So it's pretty much does what Necrovalley doesn't; stops effects in Graves ?[/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]And Kokonoe made a thread like this a minute before you, so Ninja'd ? xD[/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 [quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1334097843' post='5909370'] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] So it's pretty much the part of Necrovalley that doesn't stop effects in Graves ?[/size][/font][/color][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] And Kokonoe made a thread like this a minute before you, so Ninja'd ? xD[/size][/font][/color] [/quote] Nope. Necrovalley doesn't actually affect the cards in the Grave, just interaction outside of the Grave with the Grave. Completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Hm... It can stop rabbit and PSZ right? Either way, I don't think it's very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Leonis Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Plants are saying this card's a bit late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1334097979' post='5909379'] Nope. Necrovalley doesn't actually affect the cards in the Grave, just interaction outside of the Grave with the Grave. Completely different. [/quote] Yeah, but then Necrovalley doesn't stop effects that happen in the Graves (say Necro Gardna, even though Necrovalley can counter that), but then this card [i]can [/i]stop cards like Necro Gardna, correct ? That's what I was asking pretty much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 [quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1334098104' post='5909387'] Yeah, but then Necrovalley doesn't stop effects that happen in the Graves (say Necro Gardna, even though Necrovalley can counter that), but then this card [i]can [/i]stop cards like Necro Gardna, correct ? That's what I was asking pretty much [/quote] Can stop Necro. Can stop PvZ. Doesn't stop DAD like Necro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Ah, now I understand. Thanks for clearing that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Cards like this are effing evil and should burn in hell. Then again, anything this does to me is done by LIM, so same diff there.... Still evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 [quote name='Yuuichirou' timestamp='1334098084' post='5909384'] Hm... It can stop rabbit and PSZ right? Either way, I don't think it's very good. Could it work with D.Fissure for some kind of lock thing? [/quote] Rabbit activates on the field, not in Grave/Banish zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 GM... Then I guess I misunderstood : P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Hold on. If Skill Drain doesn't negate Rabbit, why wouldn't this card do it? Plus this stops Dark Worlds without affecting Inzektors, so they totally have that now. This card is amazing. EDIT: Wait, I'm a bit off. But if the translation is off and the card is worded like Skill Drain, then it's f*cking amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 ITT: everything resolves in the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1334099944' post='5909459'] ITT: everything resolves in the grave. [/quote]If the translation were something like: "The effects of all monsters that are banished or in the Graveyard are negated." Then it'd be a whole lot better, and what everyone first thought it was, and frankly, what it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1334099944' post='5909459'] ITT: everything resolves in the grave. [/quote] ITT: The card actually negates effects. Read it. It prevents activation, nothing else :/ It's like saying Fossil Dyna works like Royal Oppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 So it is poopoo than. I was really hoping for a version of Drain in which it does what we all thought this card should have. That would have been meta-defining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 It's not THAT bad, it's just...not great. It stops effects that try to activate in the Grave/RFG Zone, not that are currently there. And it stops them from activating, not negates them. So Rabbit activates on the Field, but banishes itself as a cost. It's already activated from the Field, it doesn't matter where Rabbit itself is. Sangan and Dark Worlds wont activate, but Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror already covers that without an LP cost. Inzektors will be unfazed except maybe Gigamantis, so again, Shadow-Imprisoning does it better. It'll stop cards like DD Survivor and Scout Plane, but that's hardly effective, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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