Northern Sage Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [i][img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/8/8a/NightShot-GAOV-JP-R.jpg[/img][/i] [quote][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target"]Target[/url] 1 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Set"]Set[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_Card"]Spell[/url]/[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Trap_Card"]Trap Card[/url] your opponent [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control"]controls[/url]; [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy"]destroy[/url] that target. Your opponent cannot [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activate"]activate[/url] that target in response to this card's activation.[/quote] Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I STILL think that Konami is hinting with this and Storm that they're going to hit MST and Heavy Storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1335513280' post='5926552'] I STILL think that Konami is hinting with this and Storm that they're going to hit MST and Heavy Storm. [/quote] if they do would you want it that way? imo if they reduce card removal cards down a bit it would help some cards to get played more. I Like this card as due to the secondary effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I think it's very overrated and dust is better when you've maxed MST,but eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='~Poker Face~' timestamp='1335513571' post='5926557'] if they do would you want it that way? imo if they reduce card removal cards down a bit it would help some cards to get played more. [color=#FF0000]It would, and maybe people hate the summon-set 5 formats, but at least they were able to force people to use their resources wisely and play conservatively. But there are certainly ways around it with this and storm. Hell, Crystal Beasts could TOTALLY use storm.[/color] I Like this card as due to the secondary effect. [color=#FF0000]Note that you can still chain another card, then chain the targeted card.[/color] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 ah yes silly me >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 So in terms of name-change... Photography -> Automobile(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Dust Tornado's still infinitely better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark_ Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1335513783' post='5926559'] I think it's very overrated and dust is better when you've maxed MST,but eh. [/quote] [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335530259' post='5926642'] Dust Tornado's still infinitely better. [/quote] No it isn't and you're both very bad at this game. Being a spell card already makes it better and if the both of you were actually good at this game you would have noticed that thanks to the removal of priority the meta will be full of chainable traps (Raigeki Break, Compulsory etc.) against which Dust Tornado sucks ass while this does not. tl;dr Learn to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1335534358' post='5926668'] No it isn't and you're both very bad at this game. Being a spell card already makes it better and if the both of you were actually good at this game you would have noticed that thanks to the removal of priority the meta will be full of chainable traps (Raigeki Break, Compulsory etc.) against which Dust Tornado sucks ass while this does not. tl;dr Learn to play. [/quote] So basically. You're bad at this game. I dunno about you, but I like being able to chain to my opponent's Macro Cosmos when they try to stop my plays, instead of blind MST'ing/Night Shotting and hoping I hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I agree with Shark about the Format shift....Traps got alot better with out Ignition Priority so they will see more play.[quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335534569' post='5926672'] So basically. You're bad at this game. I dunno about you, but I like being able to chain to my opponent's Macro Cosmos when they try to stop my plays, instead of blind MST'ing/Night Shotting and hoping I hit. [/quote] Why not just chain MST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Le Magician' timestamp='1335534776' post='5926674'] Why not just chain MST? [/quote] Because post-side decking you side in 2 Dust Tornadoes in Inzektors against decks that can side in Macro. Same thing goes for Dark Worlds, and anything that doesn't want to get hit by Macro, and similar cards. Night Beam is useless in this sense, you're only blind hitting them, if you hit them at all. It's much better if you can chain to them to stop them, so you know you're hitting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335534969' post='5926679'] Because post-side decking you side in 2 Dust Tornadoes in Inzektors against decks that can side in Macro. Same thing goes for Dark Worlds, and anything that doesn't want to get hit by Macro, and similar cards. Night Beam is useless in this sense, you're only blind hitting them, if you hit them at all. It's much better if you can chain to them to stop them, so you know you're hitting them. [/quote] I know that..but your post implied that you would Blind MST...which is just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Le Magician' timestamp='1335535154' post='5926683'] I know that..but your post implied that you would Blind MST...which is just bad. [/quote] Oh, mistake on my part. Meant to just refer to the Night Beam. Case and point, it's outclassed based on versatility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Konami in charge of not making silly names. Based on how most players probably use this, why not call it Shot in the Dark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Doesn't stop the opponent from activating a different card in response to this, then activating the targeted card in response to their own card. ... which really sucks when you're up against Chain Burn or Reckless Exodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 While this card prevents direct chaining, it's still essentially a S/T specific Dark World Lightning without the discard. It's got uses, but it loses some consistency because it can only hit f/d Spells or Traps. You should run 3 MST before even considering this as a tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I use 3 of this alongside 3 MST and Heavy Storm. I'm surprised that a fellow Hero player like yourself Chris would opt to not play this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote]I'm surprised that a fellow Hero player like yourself Chris would opt to not play this.[/quote] Heroes don't even need MST in the main. ot: The reason one would want to side into extra removal is to have answers to problematic continuous traps like Macro Cosmos, Decree, Rivalry and the like. Night Beam can't destroy them. Blind MSTing is bad. Blind Night Beaming is just a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Manjy has obviously never played Hero Arrive OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1335620448' post='5927476'] I use 3 of this alongside 3 MST and Heavy Storm. I'm surprised that a fellow Hero player like yourself Chris would opt to not play this. [/quote] Heroes don't need backrow removal. Dust Tornado hits what you absolutely need to hit, when you need to, instead of blindly hoping you hit the right card. It's simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Chris has obviously never played Hero Arrive OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1335623760' post='5927522'] Chris has obviously never played Hero Arrive OTK. [/quote] Why would I want to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335623891' post='5927525'] Why would I want to? [/quote] Because I am proving a point, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1335624019' post='5927528'] Because I am proving a point, thank you. [/quote] Your point was that an OTK deck can run backrow removal. OTK decks suck and Night Beam is awful. I don't understand why you made that point. s: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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