Jord200 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Effect_Veiler During your opponent's [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Phase"]Main Phase[/url]: You can [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send"]send[/url] this card from your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand"]hand[/url] to the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard"]Graveyard[/url] to [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target"]target[/url] 1 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up"]face-up[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Effect_Monster"]Effect monster[/url] your opponent [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control"]controls[/url]; [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Negate"]negate[/url] that target's [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect"]effects[/url] until the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/End_Phase"]End Phase[/url]. disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Hand Trap staple in today's meta. Stops just about everything top-tier these days except Dragonsworn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 So dead in so many matchups but so necessary to stop the other matchups. .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 It's such a pulse when I use this on Evil HERO Dark Gai and Montage Dragon lol This lady comes in handy in a lot of situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 I should start paying attention to those hand traps, now that I will stop playing Macro for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 I really hate using this card for the reason Chris mentioned. While it is good against the likes of Inzektors, Rabbits, anythingelsewithfieldtriggereffectsandignition, it is just dead against many other match ups. Fruck this forced 3 veiler format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Koloktos' timestamp='1338243128' post='5948514'] I really hate using this card for the reason Chris mentioned. While it is good against the likes of Inzektors, Rabbits, anythingelsewithfieldtriggereffectsandignition, it is just dead against many other match ups. Fruck this forced 3 veiler format. [/quote] Good thing Side Decks exist because then you can side this out and side in something more effective. It's a good card and hardly a dead draw too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Really wish you didn't need to run 3 to beat he top tiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Judgment Dragon' timestamp='1338249924' post='5948569'] Good thing Side Decks exist because then you can side this out and side in something more effective. It's a good card and hardly a dead draw too. [/quote] Its dead against Dragons, Heroes, and Sams. It clogs at 3 too. OT: Honestly besides Rabbit, Crow is superior to it. I've had alot more success running 2 Crow than 3 Veilers(my deck has a good matchup against rabbit anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote]Honestly besides Rabbit, Crow is superior to it. I've had alot more success running 2 Crow than 3 Veilers(my deck has a good matchup against rabbit anyway)[/quote] The only reason people run Veiler is Inzektors. Lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1338315716' post='5948835'] The only reason people run Veiler is Inzektors. Lmao. [/quote] You know its sad when one of the top decks forces everyone to run something @3 in all decks even if they don't want to run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1338315716' post='5948835'] The only reason people run Veiler is Inzektors. Lmao. [/quote] Have you read Rescue Rabbit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1338315716' post='5948835'] The only reason people run Veiler is Inzektors. Lmao. [/quote] Crow forces them to search out Hornet again, making them waste a turn the same way Veiler would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1338316147' post='5948838'] Have you read Rescue Rabbit? [/quote] Go veiler the rabbit so they can protect it and give you the minus. It's not bad against rabbit but if inzektors didn't exist hardly anyone would play veiler. @wizarus: or veiler their dragonfly/centipede and stop all their plays. Crow is just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1338319573' post='5948888'] Go veiler the rabbit so they can protect it and give you the minus. It's not bad against rabbit but if inzektors didn't exist hardly anyone would play veiler. @wizarus: or veiler their dragonfly/centipede and stop all their plays. Crow is just awful. [/quote] Because they will always have protection. And you'll never be able to overcome that protection. Nope. Never. And it doesn't stop the dumb TGU combos. Nope. Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1338320236' post='5948891'] Because they will always have protection. And you'll never be able to overcome that protection. Nope. Never. And it doesn't stop the dumb TGU combos. Nope. Not at all. [/quote] Wow, you are dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1338320715' post='5948896'] Wow, you are dumb. [/quote] I find that more than ironic coming from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Wizarus' timestamp='1338313528' post='5948825'] Its dead against Dragons. [/quote]I'm sorry, it appears I've stopped trusting your 'wisdom.' [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1338315716' post='5948835'] The only reason people run Veiler is Inzektors. Lmao. [/quote]Rabbit, TGU, REDMD, Atum, BLS, Sorc, Darkflare, Wind-Ups, half of the Xyz, Stratos. Yeah, totally just because of Inzektors. [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1338320715' post='5948896'] Wow, you are dumb. [/quote]You have little to no right to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1338323867' post='5948916'] I'm sorry, it appears I've stopped trusting your 'wisdom.' Rabbit, TGU, REDMD, Atum, BLS, Sorc, Darkflare, Wind-Ups, half of the Xyz, Stratos. Yeah, totally just because of Inzektors. You have little to no right to say that. [/quote] Veilering REDMD is the only way you're doing anything significant to Chaos Dragons. And I'm not saying Crow is better, its just that Crow helps me against my bad match-ups better while still stopping the Wind-up loop and Inzektors to an extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 [quote name='Wizarus' timestamp='1338326378' post='5948938'] Veilering REDMD is the only way you're doing anything significant to Chaos Dragons. And I'm not saying Crow is better, its just that Crow helps me against my bad match-ups better while still stopping the Wind-up loop and Inzektors to an extent. [/quote]Veiler stops the decks that are more prominent. Hands down. And veilering REDMD may be the most significant way to attack Dragons with it, but it's still an amazing move as they're definitely going to be using it in the duel. Plus, in all honesty, LPD is the only argument to not run Veiler, and that's only 3 out of 37/38 cards. Veiler stops REDMD, TGU, because, you know, they actually run that, BLS, Sorc, DAD, Darkflare, Lyla, Ryko, and essentially every card in the Extra Deck. But no, you're right, Crow stops all of those better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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