Azuh Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Valkyria read chumps and discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 How can you say a Gemini will be a staple? And how exactly does it replace Breaker? They destroy different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 it is very similiar1 counter = +300 ATK pointsremove counter to destroy something but yes they destroy deffrient things and it's a gemini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 not really an staple or breaker replacement, but this card would be a good addition to an aggro deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzi Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 The fact that this card is a Gemini separates it from staple-ness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God GAK Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Wait, so you can add a counter to it, EACH TURN? then, if we do not think that it is a gemini it is very good. i give it 9/10 just cause it is a gemini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Wait' date=' so you can add a counter to it, EACH TURN?[/quote'] Place a Spell Counter once on this card. This card gains 300 ATK for each Spell Counter on it. You can remove 1 Spell Counter from this card to destroy 1 monster on the field. once...once!!! So after the second summon, just place 1 Spell counter on it. JUST 1!!! Not every turn, just ONCE!!! And that once is when it is Second Summoned. So this card will not replace Breaker, since it's to slow and only destroy 1 monster with it, not a Spell/Trap card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonzord Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Wait' date=' so you can add a counter to it, EACH TURN?[/quote'] No. Once. See how the card says 'once' right on it? That's how you know. By reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 To be honest, this card actually sucks... Exiled Force > Dark Valkyria Why?Exiled Force is much easier to search out of your deck with Sangan and that Spell card that search Level 4 or less Warrior type monsters in your deck and you can immediatly activate it and is almost unstoppable, since it's Tribute is a cost and only destroyes a monster when it hits the graveyard. Dark Valkyria in the other hand can't be searched AT ALL, you have to wait a turn to Second Summon (unless you Special Summon it first of course, but once again, there are better choices) and must remain on the field to have it's effect activated, so it can be negated by Skill Drain and Divine Wrath and even more cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Exiled Force > Dark Valkyria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 exiled force with priority blows this card out of the water. Sueage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casaditymaker Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 It is a really cool effect and a little overpowered (1800 normal attack and then 2100 for a level 4)I think they need to make the OCG clearer, just like God Gak said up there, and it is hard to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I like it, but I don't expect it to be run in competitive decks. Now, if it had a higher ATK bonus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Bad card. 1800 beatstick, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I wouldn't go so far as saying it's bad. It is, after all, more versatile, and not a bad draw. Exiled Force is good because it is searchable, but it isn't exactly good at being a beatstick if the time comes. It also disappears after it's effect, so it doesn't work as tribute fodder. This card's gemini status kills it on the competitive level, but it isn't a bad card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanderTheGreat Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 ... Bad card is bad. Basically, you first summon a vanilla 1800 ATK beatstick. Then, if it ever survived, you can throw your normal summon away for 2100 ATK beatstick, or to destroy a monster. Might as well use Cyber Dragon and Smashing Ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 It IS bad. 1800 means unsearchable; Gemini means it might as well be a tribute monster, except tributes can abuse Frog/Soul Exchange/whatever. And clearly, no one would waste their Premature/Monster Reborn on this. I'm having a hard time picturing anyone using this over, say, Zaborg. It's bad even for a Gemini monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 It's OK... If you want to run Gemini / Normal monster support, Pitch-Black Power Stones and crap like that, you can abuse this card, not worth it in a regular deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Bad card is bad. Waste a normal summon for an 1800 stick. Second summon it for... one free monster destruction. Summoning Vorse Raider and then summoning Exiled Force next turn is much more productive... and when summoning Vorse Raider is actually looking like a decent idea, you know you ****ed up somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice godess nakyu Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 That would be my bait doll replacement T_T oh god i miss my breaker i used to run 2 before the limit with tsukuyomi and 2 magician of faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 This card is really useless and cannot replace anything. No breaker because it just doesn't destroy s/t. No Exiled force because it can be BTH'ed. How will you get rid of his Marshmallon now? And it can never be a staple, because it is too slow and just worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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