Scrooge Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Merciful, are on good terms with any of her friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 [quote]Okay, I've got to say that this sounds way too much like something straight out of some pulp-fiction. First of all, you haven't given us anything that would support this story being true. if something like this happened, then there would be at least something about it in a newspaper or something, and don't give me "It's in Indonesia and the police are incompetent." or some load of crock like that. Second, how old could this person possibly be? If she's underage, I doubt that she's really smart enough for this. Also, someone who would kill just for the pleasure would be a sociopath, so I doubt she would be your friend. Other than that, just the obvious sense that this was written to seem way too... story-like. Take for instance, these parts: [/quote] The whole story is long, but I beg of you to believe me. I swear to God, or to anything else. It's all true. She [i]is[/i] smart, and regardless of how fictional everything seems, can you please believe me? This is exactly one of the things I'm afraid of. I'm sorry for putting everything in bold and italics if that makes it all silly. The thing is, I'm used to writing stories. But this here is reality. [quote] Plus, you're kinda killing it when you put things in all caps like that and over-compensate with punctuation. [b]Look, if any of this was real then from what you've said, there's nothing you can do.[/b] [b][/b][/quote] That's why I'm on this site. That's why I'm asking my parents. That's why I'm warning my girlfriend and other friends about my possible fate. I'm just waiting for someone to give a solution that will be able to solve all my problems, not people accusing me that it's all unreal (since Yahoo! Answers, I've started to get a bit bitter about this). I need advice and moral support. And yes, I'm scared. [quote] Seriously? If you were really this scared, you wouldn't come onto a children's card game website to tell everyone about it. [/quote] Exactly. This is the only place I'm telling everyone. This is the only place she doesn't know. In a way, YCM is my kind of haven. I've also seen all you guys argue constructively so I've never doubted your abilities. That's why I'm telling everyone about all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I'll tell you what, Idiot. I'll give you an honest solution if you can supply any kind of definite proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 [quote name='Merciful Idiot' timestamp='1341666377' post='5969372'] Read the goddamned whole thread before you post. I'm sorry for swearing, but my life is at risk here. I need to take the best option. Don't call me literally retarded if you haven't bothered to read anything. [/quote] I read the first few sentences and got to where she murdered three people and just murdered her fourth, though you were a retard and skimmed only to see "the police are incompetent". Any advice you get from the police is vastly, vastly superior then you'll get from the ten year olds on YCM. GO TO THE POLICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Why does proof matter to you? In the end, is it important whether he's lying or not, Kakashi? In the slight, even, possibility that he really is in danger, I think we should help to our best ability. And hather is right, this is a complex situation, and the experts will provide far more valuable help. If anything, you can ask a Police Officer unofficially for advice. Isn't there anyone of this sector that you trust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 [quote] Cooperating with murder? Well, you did not do anything to help the murder to be carried out, but its Indonesia, they wont bloody listen. I think that 1 murder is enough for a life sentence, but because Indonesia's Police Force are about as incompetent Englands, I think she MIGHT target you. Tell the police, if it is the right thing to do, do it. Get her locked up before she does something crazy. Manipulative, Murderer, I wonder what these qualities make (Serial Killer). So before any more innocent lives are taken, get locked up. To ammend the words of Optimus Prime. "She must be stopped, no matter the cost." [/quote] Thanks for your encouraging words. This is exactly what I'm trying to do. [quote]Merciful, are on good terms with any of her friends? [/quote] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH no. They all think I'm a nerd, and that she's weird for bothering to be friends with me. [quote] I'm fairly sure there isn't a police department on earth that turns away [i]tips relating to murder[/i] casually. Because dealing with murder is one of the [i]primary reasons for having a police department in the first place. [/i] ...When the hell did money come into the equation? It's a 15 year old girl not the freaking Kingpin. [/quote] You do realize she's the daughter of a man who owns some motorcycle company, and apparently he's rich? ._. But of course, granted, he has no idea of what she does. Not yet. [quote] Yeah, reading the thread could help... tl;dr for you: Indonesia, girlfriend killed 4 people, police are dumb, girls dad is rich and guy is afraid she'll go on a revenge mission if he turns her in. wat do? @Hydra; Other countries operate differently. No denying it. I could go to the Phillipinnes, kill someone, and bribe the police to let me go and I'd be a free person. No problem. And he mentioned her dad is rich, so I would assume he could bail her out if he did turn her in. [/quote] Oh, it's not my girlfriend. Best friend and girlfriend are two different things - although my girlfriend's also admittedly a best friend. Thank you for repointing out the father and murder thing.[quote] I'll tell you what, Idiot. I'll give you an honest solution if you can supply any kind of definite proof. [/quote] Alright. Hold on, I'll PM you a few attachments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 [quote name='Scrooge' timestamp='1341667594' post='5969393'] Why does proof matter to you? In the end, is it important whether he's lying or not, Kakashi? In the slight, even, possibility that he really is in danger, I think we should help to our best ability. [/quote] To tell you the truth, I couldn't care less. I'm not saying that he's lying, I would never stamp anything outside of my own experience as impossible, but he has really given us nothing to work with. All he's said is that the adults won't listen. There's nothing he can do. [quote][size=3] Alright. Hold on, I'll PM you a few attachments. [/size] [/quote] Now we're getting somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gojira/Godzilla Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 [quote name='Hatcher' timestamp='1341667531' post='5969392'] I read the first few sentences and got to where she murdered three people and just murdered her fourth, though you were a retard and skimmed only to see "the police are incompetent". Any advice you get from the police is vastly, vastly superior then you'll get from the ten year olds on YCM. GO TO THE POLICE. [/quote] [b][color=#000000]As useless and incompetent as most Police forces are, I agree with Hatcher. You [u]should[/u] go to the police.[/color][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 [quote name='~shadow~' timestamp='1341667978' post='5969401'] [b][color=#000000]As useless and incompetent as the American Police forces are, I agree with Hatcher. You [u]should[/u] go to the police.[/color][/b] [/quote] [quote]Here’s the full story; “Well, first off this is Indonesia[/quote] Couldn't go even 2 seconds without the America bashing? But seriously, GO TO THE POLICE. They are far more familiar with the laws in Indonesia then any YCM-er could ever hope to be (assuming we don't have any Indonesian police or lawyers). http://www.polri.go.id/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Kill her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 How paranoid is she? Does she really trust you? You're the only person who knows, don't assume she trusts you... smart murderers trust no one. She might get into a paranoid fit and harm you. At any rate, rather than imprisonment I think she requires serious psychiatric help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull3tM0nk3y Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Tell a teacher. Police officer, someone. I would not want to be friends with someone who killed someone for the pleasure of it. Defense? Sure. You need to live. But for the fun of it? Boy, that's more coco then coco-puffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I don't get why people idealize teachers so much, because from my experience they will either completely ignore you or immediately contact the principal, your parents and then the police. I've met dozens of teachers and almost none of them wanted to get involved in serious stuff, I witnessed several times the way they deliberately ignored bullying and domestic abuse, I can't imagine them dealing with something as severe as murder. That's another topic, though... dunno how things are at your school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 [quote name='Gasai Yuno' timestamp='1341679480' post='5969506'] Kill her. [/quote] Gdi I wanted to say that. D: But seriously, go to the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1341696554' post='5969728'] Gdi I wanted to say that. D: But seriously, go to the police. [/quote] Yes. Have the police kill her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?someone? Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I... well, it does sound like a story. Very much. Even if it is real, she could be lying. Of course, the keyword there is "could". Like the other guy said, if he's in even a small bit of danger, I owe it to him to turn off the cynical. If we're getting played, good. If we aren't, oh sh*t. I've had plenty of times where I thought no one would believe me, but they did. I think I oughta pay it forward. I'm afraid I have not much to offer in the way of advice that hasn't been mentioned all ready, except to act casual and perhaps sleep with a lethal implement under your pillow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 [quote name='Merciful Idiot' timestamp='1341634351' post='5969093'] Dear YCM, Lives are at stake here. This is the most serious topic that you will ever read, EVER, in your life. It is serious, not trolling. And I beg of you to read it all. Please. Here’s the full story; “Well, first off this is Indonesia - my best friend and I are sort of polar opposites. I'm like the sun, she's like the moon. She goes out, gets screwed, and has fun in parties and bars and places like that, while I just stay at home, play video games and read books and stuff... The only thing the two of us have in common is [i]intelligence[/i], we're both smart. Last year, she committed three murders, but all three of them were in self-defense, which was why I tolerated it. I found this out while reading her diary, and she confirmed it. She's also ruined the lives of many people, making all their friends hate them and things like that, but those were all because they had done something terrible to her. Sort of like revenge. And she's very well capable of manipulating people, which was how our first two weeks started off. [b]AND YET EARLIER, yesterday, she did another one.[/b] [i]But unlike the first three, this one was purely out of pleasure for the kill. The victim could have been an [b]innocent person,[/b][/i] and her only excuse is that 'secretly all people who don't deserve to die want to die'. You can accuse me all you want for not sending her to jail sooner, but she's my frikin’ best friend. You’re not supposed to betray your friends! Still, when she's taking lives for nothing more than pleasure, [i]she's become a threat to others.[/i] She's the daughter of a rich yet abusive father, and well...she's really good at ruining other people's lives. I have photos of her diary and chat history to prove it, but I fear the murders may have been too discreet to be noticed and reported. The only problem is...well, the police of Indonesia are sort of incompetent. And I'm worried they won't fully understand what I'm trying to say to them. Also, I'm worried that my best friend (who trusts me) will leave jail (four murders is enough for a life sentence....right?!), in which case I will definitely be a target for her. And I'm also worried that her other friends (ones who definitely do NOT get along well with nerds like me...) will also find me responsible and...do something.... And they're fully capable of it. Please take all these words seriously. If you think I'm a troll, at least PRETEND I'm not, alright??!! Now that you have a full grasp on the situation...my question is this: what do I do? How do I bring such a dangerous threat to people, my best friend, to justice without her being able to slip away or frame me or whatever....? Because this is [i]serious,[/i] and more lives are at stake.” I posted this on Yahoo Answers as well, but the people there are…not answering goodly, and I want a proper, clear, constructive, and smart answer that can help me with all this. Once she finds out I’ve been asking for help, searching for ways to put her into jail – unless she’s [i]already[/i] behind bars with a life sentence, it’s all over for me. However, I can’t risk being put into jail myself, for cooperating with a murderer (which I didn’t). Also, if it’s brought to court and I lose, then it’s all over for me. Not to mention her father’s frikin’ rich! What if he pays her bail despite the accused quadruple murders?! IT’S ALL OVER FOR ME. You guys are THE smartest group of people I know. Some of you are trolls, some of you are children, but you are ALL smart and intelligence. I trust you guys on that. I call upon all your intelligence, and I hope you can give me a good answer. If I don’t do anything about it, others will be targeted. If I [i]do[/i] do something about it, if I don’t go about it smart, then I WILL BE THE TARGET. Right now, she trusts me and disregards me. She's a master at hiding deaths, and she even plotted to kill her own (abusive) father. But when she kills innocents, that's when it goes too far. Even for me. I must stop my best friend. I tried words, they aren’t working. This is Indonesia, the police and system are sort of incompetent. Guys. Help me. What do I do? [/quote] She is your friend. Maybe you can talk some sense into her before she goes to far. Attempt to convince her that she might be going a bit over the edge. Tell her you can help her or something. I am so sorry this has happened to you. However I must implore that you beseach that she stop this. Now I am not saying "BE A MAN!" I am saying that calmly trying to acertain her situation in the matter is also vitally important. If there could be a way that you could convince her to turn herself in willingly then there may be hope. This is all I can think of. In the end it all depends on her mental and moral state. I hope you are okay. If this doesn't work then I suggest going to the police. As that is the only option left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 [quote name='James Bond - 007' timestamp='1341710845' post='5970053'] She is your friend. Maybe you can talk some sense into her [size=8][b]before she goes to far[/b][/size]. Attempt to convince her that she might be going a bit over the edge. Tell her you can help her or something. I am so sorry this has happened to you. However I must implore that you beseach that she stop this. Now I am not saying "BE A MAN!" I am saying that calmly trying to acertain her situation in the matter is also vitally important. If there could be a way that you could convince her to turn herself in willingly then there may be hope. This is all I can think of. In the end it all depends on her mental and moral state. I hope you are okay. If this doesn't work then I suggest going to the police. As that is the only option left. [/quote] ...Before? [color=#ff0000][u][i][b][size=7]BEFORE!?[/size][/b][/i][/u][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 [quote name='Gasai Yuno' timestamp='1341715887' post='5970170'] ...Before? [color=#FF0000][u][i][b][size=7]BEFORE!?[/size][/b][/i][/u][/color] [/quote] Might have understated the problem a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 You guys are forgetting her father is rich. He could pay off people to reduce her sentence, even though he's apparently abusive. Contact the cops and cross your fingers she gets killed in a shootout. Also, does Indonesia have any form of a Witness Protection Program? You should contact them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Thanks for the support, and no, my friend's way too far for me to save her. It's been too late for years already. According to my mother, she'll handle the case now. As much as I want to go to the police station, I'm only a kid myself and I need an adult to support me. I've already given her all the necessary data, the diary photos and the phone chat history, as well as information on her Facebook account and her father's identity. Hopefully, she'll be able to work out a solution before another murder is committed. I hope.Thanks for the support, and no, my friend's way too far for me to save her. It's been too late for years already. According to my mother, she'll handle the case now. As much as I want to go to the police station, I'm only a kid myself and I need an adult to support me. I've already given her all the necessary data, the diary photos and the phone chat history, as well as information on her Facebook account and her father's identity. Hopefully, she'll be able to work out a solution before another murder is committed. I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'tyleR Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 What I want to know is, how did she murder these people? Especially if she was attacked by 3 people at first, how did she overcome and even go so far as to kill them? Does she just happen to carry weapons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 [quote] What I want to know is, how did she murder these people? Especially if she was attacked by 3 people at first, how did she overcome and even go so far as to kill them? Does she just happen to carry weapons? [/quote] Not at once they attacked at separate times. I doubt she could take on three at once. And I'm not quite sure, I'll look at the diary entries again later, but I suppose that before the murders she [i]was[/i] attacked, and since then she carried a knife around. She used this knife when three rapists decided to unknowingly attack her. That's my guess anyhow. She told me about the knife and that she carries it around everywhere in case she's attacked, but I never really drew a line between it and well, the murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinforce Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 The best advice I could give would be to talk to her and see if you could get her to tell you the exact circumstances behind the fourth murder, such as whether the victim was innocent or if he did anything to provoke her. Also, keep her confident that you are her friend, and if possible, make t look like the police pulled your chat records to get the evidence, to attempt to stop her from ever finding out that it was you who caused the evidence to find its way to the police. That's just my opinion on the matter, and probably what I'd attempt given the same or a similar situation. In the end, just try to keep yourself alive first and stop her if you can do so without putting your own survival in jeopardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Stay on her good side. Women are scary when they get mad, and this one apparently kills. No, I'm not joking for once. If her father has this kind of influence, you don't want to cross them. Look out for #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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