宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Because Twilight is undersupported (lolsarcasm) and I got a sudden creativity surge. [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/m5993.jpg[/img] [spoiler=(Longer than Eternal Demon Queen O_O) Effect] Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Can only be Special Summoned by banishing 1 DARK Fairy-type monster and 1 LIGHT Fiend-type monster from your graveyard. If this card is sent to the graveyard from the field, destroy 3 cards on the field and Special Summon 1 "Rebirth Token" (LIGHT/Fiend/Level 1/0 ATK/0 DEF) to your side of the field. During your second Standby Phase after this card is sent to the graveyard, you can tribute 1 "Rebirth Token" you control to special summon this card from the graveyard, ignoring the summoning conditions. [/spoiler] Splashable 3K beater with easy summoning conditions and a pretty devastating effect once summoned. Deja vu much? (LOLBLS) *ahem* It has a nuke effect upon hitting the graveyard, so better be careful. The Rebirth Token plays an important aspect in keeping the pressure on after the big nuke and allows for mind games with your opponent. The card might be OP'd but I'm not so sure on that. So rate, fix [s]my terrible, terrible OCG[/s] if broken and CnC is always welcome. Card Changes: 7/10/2012 (5 Minutes after release): Major Nerfing. 7/11/2012: Nerfed again. 7/11/2012: Changed summoning conditions, nerfed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 First of, ur ABSOLUTE WORST MISTAKE OF ALL..... you didn't put a period after the first sentence. Graveyard & Tribute should be capitalized. Hmmm atk of BLS + Zero's bombing + you get a monster that can be destroyed by battle and a rebirth eff + almost no extra cost outside of summoning= PERFECTLY BA:ANCED!!! But seriously, card oped....wait it has 0 def?!?!?!.... stil oped. Also the return spell/trap makes it even more balanced ^^. But given it's type, it's not as oped as if it dragon and lvl 8. Cut atk to maybe 2700 and make the "return 2 Spell/Trap" to destroy (i might be wrong on this though. Can't think of a way to fix the rebirth eff....hmmmm that effect might be balanced but i don't think so. Anyways, those are some Wisdom From a Newb. Come back next time when we interview Dora the Explorer and the secrets to her oddly colored monkey, was Boots picked up from a shampoo factory or a radioactive power plant o.0. Stay tuned to find out on January 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Guess I should have stayed with Xyzs... *sob* *sob* [color=#ffffff]Uuuu! I hate Kvn! I want Kvn to get off this site! Kvn is a mweanie! Uwaaaah![/color] [color=#000000]Fixed. Less OP'd.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 So... you just took the spell/trap removal AWAY.... ok, best way to deal with oped effects that ur to lazy to balance...so far. Anyways, it's still a huge beater with a reborn effect that can bomb the field. This may sound fine for others but it just doesn't seem perfect yet. Like what that [s]idiot only slightly retarded errr[/s] average intellengented(it's [s]not[/s] a word, [s]trust[/s] me) who wrote the first reply to this topic, i think you should cut atk to 2700 and maybe raise def to 1500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 I'm not gonna lessen the ATK. 0 DEF is sometimes enough to balance a card. Sometimes. I dunno about that right now. Thanks for comment. [color=#ffffff]Kvn should just shaddup! Kvn doesn't know what he's talking about! Kvn is a complete moron![/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Alright, thank you for taking my comment into consideration. I maybe, possibly, probably, have a chance of being wrong (i probably am). Well BLS has 2500 def so yeh, i guess it's balanced. Welcome back to Wisdom From a Newb. Now we will talk... wat?...topic canceled?.....wat?... show canceled.... YES XD! I'M FREE... oh i have to star in another show -__- (pulls out gun*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Because we need MORE broken, esily Summonable beatstickers that has the ability to keep on coming back and back and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 It's absolutely broken for multiple reasons, the most being: "If this card is sent to the Graveyard, destroy all cards on the field" Fact of the matter is, it doesn't specify that it has to be sent from the field at all, so Foolish Burial becomes Dark Hole on steroids. It's not even ideally balanced in the slightest. The regeneration ability and the fact that there is virtually no way around the effect makes it worse than Chaos Emperor Dragon, and that's not something you can say about many cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 We don't need any more splashable Chaos cards, and this guy is a 3k beater to boot, making it almost as bad as BLS and having a reasonably useful other effect as well. Put the ATK down to 2k or something and make it have to be destroyed in battle to nuke the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Alright, I've fixed the destruction effect. I might suggest you guys to ignore the effect on the image and focus on the effect I've written underneath the card. Hmm... Maybe I should change the summoning conditions too. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 The card is still broken, as it's a 3k Chaos beater that nukes the field if it's sent to the Graveyard from the field. There only way to nerf it is to either make it destroy only monsters or Spell / Trap Cards, and even then it would be broken, EVEN if it's ATK is reduced as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Updated, please read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomnolentWandaranda Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Does this card even support Twilight anymore? I feel like it's something for a combination of Nordic and Fabled. If you make the requirements too difficult to afford, it'll render this card unusable. Maybe we should make the requirements while considering the nature of Twilight itself? Instead of banishing cards from Graveyard, how about banishing [i]a few high-level monster [/i]with [i]at least 1 Light and 1 Dark on the field[/i]? If needed, we should try to somehow make sure Gagagas can't participate in this SS. I think Reborn Eff doesn't have to use a Token. Just make sure that she needs a few turns to revive herself. If the cost for SS this card is as above, then even if this card sweep through the Field like a Judgement with 1000LP or like a certain Insect-type Earthbound, then it's fine coz everyone could only does that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='SomnolentWandaranda' timestamp='1342017680' post='5974074'] Does this card even support Twilight anymore? I feel like it's something for a combination of Nordic and Fabled. If you make the requirements too difficult to afford, it'll render this card unusable. Maybe we should make the requirements while considering the nature of Twilight itself? Instead of banishing cards from Graveyard, how about banishing [i]a few high-level monster [/i]with [i]at least 1 Light and 1 Dark on the field[/i]? If needed, we should try to somehow make sure Gagagas can't participate in this SS. I think Reborn Eff doesn't have to use a Token. Just make sure that she needs a few turns to revive herself. If the cost for SS this card is as above, then even if this card sweep through the Field like a Judgement with 1000LP or like a certain Insect-type Earthbound, then it's fine coz everyone could only does that much. [/quote] It used to be Twilight support, but then I changed the summoning requirements since it was broken as f**k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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