Synchronized Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote]Target 2 WATER monsters with 1500 ATK or less from your Graveyard; add those targets to your hand.[/quote] I'm thinking about trying this out in Bubblebeat. Yes? No? Opinions on the card itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 inb4Black'shatredforGishkis And yeah, Gishkis were built based around this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 It'll almost certainly be a dead draw unless you bring all three out turn one for double Blade Armors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Koloktos' timestamp='1342459981' post='5979960'] inb4Black'shatredforGishkis And yeah, Gishkis were built based around this card. [/quote] I don't hate Gishkis. I just think they're a mess of badly designed cards, ranging from recyclable RotAs, to a 3200 beater that's laughably easy to summon and can spin a card if you're lucky/stacked with Avance, to a hand killer that returns to the deck and let's you laugh all the way home. While Zealgigas and Gustkrake are enabled by other stuff, they're still bad design. As for salvage, balanced +1s are hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Gishkis are for fuckwits who should be playing solitaire. This would be horrible in Bubblebeat. Still the nuts in Frogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1342471824' post='5980181'] Gishkis are for fuckwits who should be playing solitaire. This would be horrible in Bubblebeat. Still the nuts in Frogs. [/quote] Well, like I said I was just thinking of trying it as a way to grab back both Bubbles for an Xyz, but I can see why it would be terrible. Still, I don't see the harm in just a casual test. Gishki obviously make the best use of it, but Gishki are a stupidly ridiculous Deck, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Every time a salvage thread is made it becomes "discuss gishkis". And what's everyone's hate on anything that resembles ROTA/fossil dig anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1342474322' post='5980234'] Every time a salvage thread is made it becomes "discuss gishkis". And what's everyone's hate on anything that resembles ROTA/fossil dig anyway? [/quote] The fact that Gishkis attempt to remove the other player's interaction in the duel as much as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1342474322' post='5980234'] Every time a salvage thread is made it becomes "discuss gishkis". And what's everyone's hate on anything that resembles ROTA/fossil dig anyway? [/quote] Also the fact that they're monsters that are easily recyclable and can double as the exact toll you need for any of their Rituals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1342474322' post='5980234'] Every time a salvage thread is made it becomes "discuss gishkis". And what's everyone's hate on anything that resembles ROTA/fossil dig anyway? [/quote] I don't think Salvage is hateworthy at all. Gishkis on the other hand, as Chris said, you basically sit there while your opponent just makes a bunch of plays. Not to mention the plays are pretty much costless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 We Gishkis don't care about you guys hatin' OT: Really good card, not only in Gishki. I've seen it used in Frognarchs but I don't know if it's that useful there, since most Frogs like to be in the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Yep, we got Gishki haters here. Allow me to show you the expositionary room where you shall be exposed to the awesomeness that is Gishki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1342471824' post='5980181'] Gishkis are for fuckwits who should be playing solitaire. [/quote] I was gonna try Gishki until you said THAT. I guess the other WATER choice is Atlantians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1342489308' post='5980448'] I was gonna try Gishki until you said THAT. I guess the other WATER choice is Atlantians? [/quote] Allow me to just drive the message home. I've played, among other of the top decks, Hieratics, Wind-Ups, and Inzektors, out of the decks people here tend to b**** about if/when they b****, ignoring alt wins. I greatly enjoyed playing Hieratics. The deck fits my general playstyle, and while I don't like the deck at all, I have to say I had fun with it. It just got old fast. Wind-Ups were also a deck I enjoyed a lot. The combo-swarm they are able to pull off is fun as hell. Only problem is that the loop makes you feel like an a******, but you kinda have to suck that up to play them. After playing Inzektors, I didn't really pick them back up again after the trial phase. It just wasn't as fun as other decks, to me. That said, I wouldn't mind playing it if I went to an event or anything, they're nothing too much. Then there's Gishki. I've played Zealgigas and Hieratic variants. Both made me sick to my stomach to play. Yes, Zealgigas was cool at first, but by the... 3rd game, I was sickened that it was the same bullshit over and over. There was legitimately NO skill involved, just timing and knowing the plays. HieratiGishki is the most disgusting thing I have ever played,. I'd much rather loop with Wind-Ups any day that with these things. Hell, HieratiGishki, unlinke Wind-Ups, ARE a Loop Deck. At that, most of the "good" Gishkis are terribly designed. You have 6 RotAs of sorts with Salvage to get them back, 3 Weak Stratos, a Ritual Spell that recycles itself night infinitely for simply playing it and laughs at Solemns in most cases, and either Satan Incarnate that screams "Screw the Opp" or a tentacled girl raping hands with a respectable body that loops. I'd sooner play Countdown than Gishkis, in all honesty. It's not about being a "hater" it's about the fact that they might as well be an alt win condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Salvage wouldn't be a good option for Bubbleman since unless you get rid of one you can't use the effect of the other (I guess if you had an empty field it would be okay), and it's situational whether or not you can use Salvage. If you WERE going to use a card like that, you might as well use Warrior Returning Alive, since it can be used on any of your monsters and if you draw it by itself you can go right into Bubbleman. I didn't see anyone say that, so I figured I would, in regards to the earlier discussion in this thread. I don't know exactly how Bubblebeat/whatever works, but I have faced them like... 4 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1342490603' post='5980467'] Then there's Gishki. I've played Zealgigas and Hieratic variants. Both made me sick to my stomach to play. Yes, Zealgigas was cool at first, but by the... 3rd game, I was sickened that it was the same bullshit over and over. There was legitimately NO skill involved, just timing and knowing the plays. HieratiGishki is the most disgusting thing I have ever played,. I'd much rather loop with Wind-Ups any day that with these things. Hell, HieratiGishki, unlinke Wind-Ups, ARE a Loop Deck. At that, most of the "good" Gishkis are terribly designed. You have 6 RotAs of sorts with Salvage to get them back, 3 Weak Stratos, a Ritual Spell that recycles itself night infinitely for simply playing it and laughs at Solemns in most cases, and either Satan Incarnate that screams "Screw the Opp" or a tentacled girl raping hands with a respectable body that loops. I'd sooner play Countdown than Gishkis, in all honesty. It's not about being a "hater" it's about the fact that they might as well be an alt win condition. [/quote] HieraticGishki made my burger deck alive again, but yeah. Gishki is a f***ed up deck and I hope that it never becomes meta. And Konami should really hit Gishki on the next list JUST to make sure that they'll never become tier 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Since we're trying to exaggerate the point more here: I've played Exodia and Final Countdown, but never even touched Gishkis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I played both at the same time, PLUS Destiny Board. ALL of my wins came from Countdown (the very few wins), but that's neither here nor there. I remember making a Billy Ocean deck (lol) that spammed this card with Penguins for raeg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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