Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 Well, I am not really involved in the current discussion, but I will say there is a difference between "a deck being consistent" and "consistently pulling off bullcrap for free" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 [quote name='Hatcher' timestamp='1344095174' post='5997231'] So when people say "Atlantean" they actually mean "Gennex Undine, Mermail Abysspike and Mermail Magaloabyss", three cards which are not at all Atlanteans? Fantastic. [b]They mean the decktype. I explained this in my previous post, had you bothered to read and try to make your argument coherent. "If you wanna stick your fingers in your ears and yell "BLAHBLAHBLAHICANNOTHEARYOU!" you're not welcome here."[/b] There's plenty of decks that can easily whip out 2400 or 2500 beatsticks at the cost of only one card, so I don't know why a three card investment (turned into a 2 card invement) for a 2400 beatstick is seen as the end of the world. [b]And those beaters tend to be generally quite broken. Oh my god, BLS costs 2 cards! Oh my god! It's totally not broken because it's a 2 card investment! And have you actually read Megaloabyss? When he's summoned by his effect, you can search your deck for any Abyss Spell/Trap and add it to your hand. This turns Sinister Serpent from dead advantage into any Abyss Spell/Trap from your Deck. This is NOT a good thing. Also, how is Megaloabyss a 3 card investment? ow o[/b] [/quote] Whatever, I made my points on the card as to why it shouldn't come back. Terrible design and turns things costless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I know this isn't the greatest idea in the world, but with this in Atlanteans (I notice a trend emerging). Discard this with Brionac to either bounce an opponents card, or to bounce Marksman or Armed soilder back to your hand, and then use that card for brionac. Suddenly this turns Brionac's effect into a constant +1, with ocansional +2's. Add that to all the other +1's Mermails and Atlanteans can generate from virtually any of there cards, and this is just the icing on the cake. So essentially this thing shouldn't be back just becuase it makes the Mermail-atlantean deck type, suffer nothing for costs, as well going a way towards breaking other normally reasonable cards. Which, goes without saying is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 Brio broken on his own, the Mermail argument is pretty solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 lolsinisterserpantcomingback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 There is only one problem in this video. The guy who made it only plays TCG. He didn't thought about OCG decks like Atlantean. Also, Brionac and even Dark Worlds love and tolerate the s*** out of this card. Yugioh is already a fast paced game, let's play safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Brian~ Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 [quote name='HSektor' timestamp='1344118357' post='5997511'] There is only one problem in this video. The guy who made it only plays TCG. He didn't thought about OCG decks like Atlantean. Also, Brionac and even [b]Dark Worlds [/b]love and tolerate the s*** out of this card. Yugioh is already a fast paced game, let's play safe. [/quote] I don't get it. What relation does Sinister Serpent has with Dark World? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 [quote name='.Leo' timestamp='1344117053' post='5997488'] lolsinisterserpantcomingback [/quote] Posts like these are why people hate TCG. OT: Doesnt sinister's slight slowness this OTKish meta faze anyone? At all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suibon Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1344119553' post='5997527'] OT: Doesnt sinister's slight slowness this OTKish meta faze anyone? At all? [/quote] [center]... I daresay f*** the OTKs.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Just because a card doesn't help you OTK doesn't mean it isn't bannable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1344048224' post='5996870'] Not wasting my time on a vid that won't prove anything seeing as how busted Sinister is. [/quote] [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1344048749' post='5996880'] There is no f***ing discussion when it's objectively broken. [/quote] [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1344049216' post='5996890'] No. [/quote] is it me, or are you sounding a [i]little[/i] bit like djvd? anyway, if this comes back, then everything in the game gets messed up and fableds/dark worlds would love this card the most. not that fableds are played often anymore, but you get my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344133822' post='5997727'] fableds/dark worlds would love this card the most. not that fableds are played often anymore, but you get my point. [/quote] ... ... ... ... ... [img]http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/images/UNCLE-SAM-GET-OUT.jpg[/img] Explain to me HOW Fableds use this without Normal Summoning it? And why they want it clogging the hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 can't see the picture. and because a majority of fabled-material cards discard? so if you don't have a fabled you want to discard, this would be an open suggestion because it can come back anyway? but why would you want to normal summon this? o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1344135030' post='5997735'] and because a majority of fabled-material cards discard? so if you don't have a fabled you want to discard, this would be an open suggestion because it can come back anyway? but why would you want to normal summon this? o.O [/quote] It's Uncle Sam saying he wants you to get the hell out. ... Learn how Fableds work before making generic blanket statements. Fableds discard other Fableds. they aren't generic discards. Given the general theme LIGHT follows, Fableds are more dependent on one another than Dark Worlds. Fableds don't Normal Summon much and it makes Formula, when they lack in good level 1 Fableds. Never said it was a good idea, but you really don't want to waste your one NS per turn. The main point was that this is terrible in Fableds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1344135244' post='5997738'] It's Uncle Sam saying he wants you to get the hell out. ... Learn how Fableds work before making generic blanket statements. Fableds discard other Fableds. they aren't generic discards. Given the general theme LIGHT follows, Fableds are more dependent on one another than Dark Worlds. Fableds don't Normal Summon much and it makes Formula, when they lack in good level 1 Fableds. Never said it was a good idea, but you really don't want to waste your one NS per turn. The main point was that this is terrible in Fableds. [/quote] i... see... this isn't the first time you told me to get out. you were just being an ass. stop it. [s]i don't play fableds. like i said, it was an open suggestion.[/s] okay, it's terrible in fableds, then. never mind what i JUST said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='~Brian~' timestamp='1344118457' post='5997512'] I don't get it. What relation does Sinister Serpent has with Dark World? [/quote] It's just a "random idea". But my point about Brionac and Atlanteans stand still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 A 40goodcards.dek could probably make decent use of this somehow, but I can't see it as being broken outside of decks that pretty much already are by themselves anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1344049014' post='5996886'] I don't get why everyone think its cool to bring back MoF. Even if its slow, getting back broken spells such as reborn/hole/heavy is not good for the game. Anyway, anything to say OT? [/quote] I'm not for unbanning Sinister Serpent but I am for unbanning MoF because the broken spells in question are the problem in the first place (with the possible exception of Heavy), not MoF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 [quote name='Lil Wayne!' timestamp='1344281558' post='5998956'] I'm not for unbanning Sinister Serpent but I am for unbanning MoF because the broken spells in question are the problem in the first place (with the possible exception of Heavy), not MoF. [/quote] The broken spells are the problem and MoF could come back providing they're gone, but recursion is bad and so is the fact that MoF has the potential to break things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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