Toffee. Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 [center][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110330150220/yugioh/images/thumb/c/c2/FogCastleVG-TF03-EN.jpg/300px-FogCastleVG-TF03-EN.jpg[/img] [quote][center]When a monster you control is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, you can Special Summon it to your field, but the Monster Card Zone the monster occupied can no longer be used. When the effect of this card leaves you without any usable Monster Card Zones, send this card and your entire hand to the Graveyard, then add 4 monsters from your Graveyard to your hand. You cannot conduct your Battle Phase during the turn this effect is activated.[/center][/quote][/center] Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Seems pretty broken if it adds 4 no matter how many you discard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1347549762' post='6024501'] Seems pretty broken if it adds 4 no matter how many you discard. [/quote] Yeah, but it requires all monster card zones to be affected first beforehand. And do all 5 need to be affected or just all the unoccupied ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 [quote name='Thar Ablaze' timestamp='1347552030' post='6024515'] And do all 5 need to be affected or just all the unoccupied ones?[/quote] [quote]When the effect of this card leaves you without any usable Monster Card Zones[/quote] *Cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1347552194' post='6024517'] *Cough* [/quote] Gesundheit. Then yeah, this card + Scapegoat = uberhaxorresurrection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 inb4mst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 [quote name='Thar Ablaze' timestamp='1347552555' post='6024519'] Then yeah, this card + Scapegoat = uberhaxorresurrection[/quote] If your monster is destroyed by battle, while you control Fog Castle- You lose a monster card zone, and Special Summon the monster that was just destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I've always enjoyed this card. it's awesomeness sucks at just the right amount to make it useful and yet not a target of your opponent's destruction cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 A card zone with a monster in it would still count as a "Usable Card Zone" (since you are currently using them for Scapegoat Tokens) so using Scapegoat to take up Monster Card Zones while removing one zone with the effect wouldn't cause the effect to add cards to your hand to activate. All five would need to be unusable. Killing a Scapegoat token wouldn't help either, considering the card allows you to "Special Summon the monster, but the zone it was in cannot be used". Since you cannot Special Summon the token, you can't use the effect which would Special Summon it and remove the Monster Card Zone o.x So pretty much, Scapegoat wouldn't help at all with this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1347598970' post='6024886'] A card zone with a monster in it would still count as a "Usable Card Zone" (since you are currently using them for Scapegoat Tokens) so using Scapegoat to take up Monster Card Zones while removing one zone with the effect wouldn't cause the effect to add cards to your hand to activate. All five would need to be unusable. Killing a Scapegoat token wouldn't help either, considering the card allows you to "Special Summon the monster, but the zone it was in cannot be used". Since you cannot Special Summon the token, you can't use the effect which would Special Summon it and remove the Monster Card Zone o.x So pretty much, Scapegoat wouldn't help at all with this card. [/quote] basically any other monster would. throw a thunder king down and watch them rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Actually, now that I think about it, let's say you had 4 card zones taken out by the effect, how would you lose the 5th one based on this card's text? You can't Special Summon it and THEN the card zone is taken. Perhaps the card zone is taken so long as a monster dies in it? Which would seem that Scapegoat tokens would work if they were destroyed in its place, regardless if you chose to Special Summon the destroyed monster or not (well, obviously you aren't able to Special Summon a Token back but in other situations). Something's not adding up. I suppose the card text isn't precise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zowayix Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 The card text in the OP is an exact copy of what the Tag Force games state; however, based on a Youtube video of someone combining this with Sangan to draw all 5 Exodia pieces in one turn, it looks like first the Monster Card Zone is blocked, and then the monster is Special Summoned. So if you had 4 unusable zones and a monster, and then that monster was destroyed, you could block the fifth Monster Card Zone, preventing the SS, therefore leaving you with 5 unusable zones. The card text isn't precise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1347600617' post='6024894'] Actually, now that I think about it, let's say you had 4 card zones taken out by the effect, how would you lose the 5th one based on this card's text? You can't Special Summon it and THEN the card zone is taken. Perhaps the card zone is taken so long as a monster dies in it? Which would seem that Scapegoat tokens would work if they were destroyed in its place, regardless if you chose to Special Summon the destroyed monster or not (well, obviously you aren't able to Special Summon a Token back but in other situations). Something's not adding up. I suppose the card text isn't precise. [/quote] blocking the slot is a cost I believe, so you can cost your 5th and not summon. then drop it for 4 monsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 It's just, you know, terrible card design because of how the only decks that would use it would abuse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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