Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [Spoiler=Info on the single card] a noble psychomancer (+pts if you can guess the reffence(s)) a beater type of card with alot of ways to play him but some basic combos and or tips foolish burial when you need to discard use him while this in the graveyard its special summons him back if this card is removed from the field after its normal summon or special summon by its effect (for any reason like used for xyz or synchro material for an example) and is in the graveyard you can keep bring him back to wreck havoc to your opponent but for a cost if he goes you can bring back a fallen xyz alley that you xyz summoned to act as a temp enforcer or sheild either way works for you xyz number 30 for a quick beater for that turn his effect during you next standby phase (if he is still on the field) detach 1 xyz material for it's effect then special summon this guy to avoid number 30 cost and still keep a beater around with a cheaper cost a better trick if your opponent controls a xyz ! xyz summon Temtempo the Percussion Djinn his eff then activate mind control grab your opponent's xyz with 1 or less xyz material use it to special summon this anyways this would do great in alot of argo / "number hunter" i bet you come up with more combos and or better ones using this card [/Spoiler] [Spoiler=card] [IMG]http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx221/judedudemud3/24aadd92.jpg[/IMG] [/Spoiler] [Spoiler=effect] While this card is in your Graveyard you can banish 1 face-up Xyz monster with 1 or less Xyz Material attached to it you control and 1 card in your Graveyard to Special Summon this card in ATK Position. If this card is destroyed by card's effect your opponent controls or battle Special Summon 1 rank 4 or lower Xyz monster with 2500 or less ATK that was Xyz Summon from your Extra Deck in your Graveyard, its effect is negated, it can not gain Xyz Materials and, it is destroy during your Opponent's End Phase. [/Spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliceACard Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I am thinking that the picture is a referance to Napoleon. I do like this card, but for me the effect is a little bit confusing to read. I do have one question and this is probably just a mistake but, why is a pyro a water attribute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='MaliceACard' timestamp='1347902623' post='6026677'] I am thinking that the picture is a referance to Napoleon. I do like this card, but for me the effect is a little bit confusing to read. I do have one question and this is probably just a mistake but, why is a pyro a water attribute? [/quote] napoleon sacrebleu nes par dead wrong btw its effect in a nut shell must pay 500 during your main phase 1 to decrease its atk you can pay 500 to increase 1 face-up monster in atk pos atk to inflict as much burn damage as possible to your opponent when its attack looses 1000 atk as well it will be destroyed but you will not lose lp for it and you can ss 1 xyz if it was xyz summon and in your grave and also fit the other requirements you can keep bring him back but with its cost to do so when its attack it goes to def but its low atk makes it very easy to be destroyed in battle the reason why its pyro cuz of the pic and or reffence(s) and or the burn effect the reason why the reffence(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I don't know what the reference is, and I don't care about what it references. The effect is a VERY complicated way of saying "Pay 500 life points; inflict damage to your opponent equal to the ATK of one monster on your opponent's side of the field -400, and, if the DEF of the monster is less than 400, destroy it. You can pay an additional 500 life points, inflict 1000 points of damage to your opponent." And that isn't an OCG fix, and I really don't care about the OCG. This does not help you actually get rid of the opponent's monster, and I would rather keep my Xyz Monster than use an awkward Magic Cylinder, unless it's something like Atum, in which case Gaia Dragon should work well enough. The Decks that focus on inflicting burn damage, rather than trying to actually win the game, are not very good at Xyz Summoning, so this would not re-Special Summon itself, and if it does, it would be a rare occurrence. I have no idea why the Deck would run an Extra at all though, nor do I know why I commented on this. :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='A Background Character' timestamp='1347906977' post='6026721'] I don't know what the reference is, and I don't care about what it references. The effect is a VERY complicated way of saying "Pay 500 life points; inflict damage to your opponent equal to the ATK of one monster on your opponent's side of the field -400, and, if the DEF of the monster is less than 400, destroy it. You can pay an additional 500 life points, inflict 1000 points of damage to your opponent." And that isn't an OCG fix, and I really don't care about the OCG. This does not help you actually get rid of the opponent's monster, and I would rather keep my Xyz Monster than use an awkward Magic Cylinder, unless it's something like Atum, in which case Gaia Dragon should work well enough. The Decks that focus on inflicting burn damage, rather than trying to actually win the game, are not very good at Xyz Summoning, so this would not re-Special Summon itself, and if it does, it would be a rare occurrence. I have no idea why the Deck would run an Extra at all though, nor do I know why I commented on this. :S [/quote] the way you word it the effect would be op way too op especially for a high atk level 4 monster sure it doesnt get rid of monsters but other monsters can get rid of it durin the battle phase after the battlephase no monster on there side of the field direct 1400 or 2400 you kinda miss that if you use up all your xyz material on your xyz monster you control by now is just a normal monster or you can nab your opponent xyz monster if you use this card you will depend on other card(s) and or card's effect(s) wiil to special summon or left over form last turn ss lv4 first (photon thrasher for example) ns then ss anthor lv4 (if possible) attack with this inflict burn then xyz summon detach this first then you are setup to repeat combo family thunder + plus this card super easy rk4 xyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I'm going to ask his holyness YCMaker to protect my brain cells. [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347910069' post='6026764'] the way you word it the effect would be op way too op especially for a high atk level 4 monster [b]So, wording it in a very complicated way yet doing the same thing makes it not-broken? Pro logic, use it more.[/b] sure it doesnt get rid of monsters but other monsters can get rid of it durin the battle phase after the battlephase [b]Increasing the ATK of your opponent's monsters makes this harder to do. Plus, why Summon this when you could Summon something that could get rid of it. Dealing as much damage as possible allows your opponent to use things like Hope For Escape. While not every Deck can do that, life points hardly matter until they hit 0. This card isn't useful in other ways.[/b] no monster on there side of the field direct 1400 or 2400 [b]What in the world does this even mean? If you mean things like Rainbow Flower and Jinzo #7 can't attack directly for 1400/2400, then yes, they can't. Anyway, cards like Magic Cylinder and Dimension Wall do the job too without eating your Normal Summon, if you even run those.[/b] you kinda miss that if you use up all your xyz material on your xyz monster you control by now is just a normal monster or you can nab your opponent xyz monster [b]This takes 2 turns most of the time. If you're going to make it reliant on that, then it shall be very slow.[/b] if you use this card you will depend on other card(s) and or card's effect(s) wiil to special summon or left over form last turn [b]Again, your English is butchered to the point where I can't understand you. What are you Special Summoning?[/b] ss lv4 first (photon thrasher for example) ns then ss anthor lv4 (if possible) attack with this inflict burn then xyz summon detach this first then you are setup to repeat combo [b]This is what? a 3-card combo? Plus, even if it is good in that combo, being good at just one thing isn't always a good reason to run things.[/b] family thunder + plus this card super easy rk4 xyz [b]Thunders can Xyz very easily on their own. This is just extra inconsistent damage.[/b] [/quote] It's more useful with Reverse Trap than being a whack-job of a burn card. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347910069' post='6026764'] the way you word it the effect would be op way too op especially for a high atk level 4 monster sure it doesnt get rid of monsters but other monsters can get rid of it durin the battle phase after the battlephase no monster on there side of the field direct 1400 or 2400 you kinda miss that if you use up all your xyz material on your xyz monster you control by now is just a normal monster or you can nab your opponent xyz monster if you use this card you will depend on other card(s) and or card's effect(s) wiil to special summon or left over form last turn ss lv4 first (photon thrasher for example) ns then ss anthor lv4 (if possible) attack with this inflict burn then xyz summon detach this first then you are setup to repeat combo family thunder + plus this card super easy rk4 xyz [/quote] I really want to smash your face in with a dictionary. .......... Anyway, the fact you need to get this into the Graveyard then give up an Xyz which you've already used 2+ monsters to summon just to get this out means it needs to have a strong effect and honestly this doesn't have it in my opinion....all the Life Point paying to alter Attacks is confusing and doesn't seem like a strong enough effect. Because of its summoning conditions, it really seems like it should have an effect that lets it be immune to Torrential Tribute and Solemn and all that to prevent it blowing up in your face. Getting an Xyz back when this is destroyed is OK but it doesn't seem like enough to redeem the negatives. Meh, my opinion isn't exactly valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 the xyz monster does not need EXACTLY 0 Xyz Material to special summon it you can xyz summon a xyz monster use it's effect once then give it up for this guy it would be a hard choice but eh [quote name='Enguin' timestamp='1347912474' post='6026792'] I really want to smash your face in with a dictionary. [color=#4B0082](watch it)[/color] Anyway, the fact you need to get this into the Graveyard then give up an Xyz which you've already used 2+ monsters to summon just to get this out means it needs to have a strong effect and honestly this doesn't have it in my opinion....all the Life Point paying to alter Attacks is confusing and doesn't seem like a strong enough effect. Because of its summoning conditions, it really seems like it should have an effect that lets it be immune to Torrential Tribute and Solemn and all that to prevent it blowing up in your face. Getting an Xyz back when this is destroyed is OK but it doesn't seem like enough to redeem the negatives. Meh, my opinion isn't exactly valuable. [/quote] you can normal summon it fixed the effect now it is now longer limited by its special summon limitations effect now im worry that it can be special summon by any way make make this OP'ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347912896' post='6026794'] [quote name='Enguin' timestamp='1347912474' post='6026792'] I really want to smash your face in with a dictionary. [color=#800080](watch it)[/color][b] You do understand that was a joke...?[/b] .......... Anyway, the fact you need to get this into the Graveyard then give up an Xyz which you've already used 2+ monsters to summon just to get this out means it needs to have a strong effect and honestly this doesn't have it in my opinion....all the Life Point paying to alter Attacks is confusing and doesn't seem like a strong enough effect. Because of its summoning conditions, it really seems like it should have an effect that lets it be immune to Torrential Tribute and Solemn and all that to prevent it blowing up in your face. Getting an Xyz back when this is destroyed is OK but it doesn't seem like enough to redeem the negatives. Meh, my opinion isn't exactly valuable. [/quote] you can normal summon it fixed the effect now it is now longer limmited by its special summon limitations effect now im worry that it can be special summon by any way make make this OP'ed [/quote] I don't see what was changed in the effect....it's the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 i guess you did not read the entire thing it used to be it can not be special summon except by this card's effect i removed that part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 So now....it's a level 4 monster with 2400 ATK and no summoning condition at all. That could be a problem. You need to lower the ATK if you're going to keep it this way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Enguin' timestamp='1347913537' post='6026804'] So now....it's a level 4 monster with 2400 ATK and no summoning condition at all. That could be a problem. You need to lower the ATK if you're going to keep it this way.... [/quote] did you read the effect ? it can be normal summon this card can be special summon by other card' effect this card can be special by this card's effect then its battle eff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 YES EXACTLY IT CAN BE NORMAL FREAKING SUMMONED AND IT HAS 2400 ATK. It's a level 4 monster. It has 2400 ATK. Think Herman. Think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Enguin' timestamp='1347913855' post='6026811'] YES EXACTLY IT CAN BE NORMAL FREAKING SUMMONED AND IT HAS 2400 ATK. It's a level 4 monster. It has 2400 ATK. Think garfunkle.Think. [/quote] read its effect last time i'll tell you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Actually, the way he worded the effect, both ATK-decreasing effects are mandatory, so it goes down to a 400-ATK turnip. Or so I think. I can hardly ever understand the 209 things going on in each of his cards. :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='A Background Character' timestamp='1347914399' post='6026816'] Actually, the way he worded the effect, one ATK-decreasing effects was mandatory but is not, so it goes down to a 1400-ATK turnip. Or so I think. I can hardly ever understand the 209 things going on in each of his cards. :S [/quote] you got it but thats the idea weaker it is and more powerfull opponent monster more of a problem for your opponent plus card that can negate its effect gives you a free 2400 monster if you opponent controls no monster this card can attack for 1400 of direct damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347914094' post='6026814'] read its effect last time i'll tell you [/quote] BECAUSE SKILL DRAIN OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T EXIST IN YOUR WARPED LITTLE MIND, HERMAN. Gawd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1347915294' post='6026827'] BECAUSE SKILL DRAIN OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T EXIST IN YOUR WARPED LITTLE MIND, [/quote] you also did not read it i clearly described that 2 card combo in the first post here's a tip do not post if you did not read the post it's a trade secret you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347915638' post='6026833'] you also did not read it i clearly described that 2 card combo in the first post here's a tip do not post if you did not read the post it's a trade secret you know [/quote] Maybe I just didn't feel like reading your horrible scribbling? Oh, and I noticed that you changed the first effect into a non-mandatory effect. What the hell were you thinking? With that change, it's a easily Summoned 2400 beatstick that will stay a 2400 beatstick if you do not wish to use its effect, which FYI, good players wouldn't even dream of activating. So yeah, a Level 4 2400 beater that can be Special Summoned just like that is bad for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1347916510' post='6026843'] Maybe I just didn't feel like reading your horrible scribbling? Oh, and I noticed that you changed the first effect into a non-mandatory effect. What the hell were you thinking? With that change, it's a easily Summoned 2400 beatstick that will stay a 2400 beatstick if you do not wish to use its effect, which FYI, good players wouldn't even dream of activating. So yeah, a Level 4 2400 beater that can be Special Summoned just like that is bad for the game. [/quote] it lose 1000atk during the battle phase you need to read eff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347901633' post='6026672'] [Spoiler=card] [img]http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx221/judedudemud3/0feb975c.jpg[/img] [/Spoiler] [Spoiler=effect] This card can not be Set. [color=#000000][b]Okay? Why would I want to?[/b][/color] While this card is in your Graveyard you can banish 1 face-up Xyz monster with [b]1 Xyz Material or less [/b]attached to it you control and 1 card in your Graveyard to Special Summon this card in ATK Position. [b]So I can easily tutor this....into a pseudo engine? That makes alot of sense. Make a useless Zenmaines/Leviair, etc, into food for this guy so I can just Xyz or punish my opponent. Note that there are some cards that <3 to be in the banish zone...so it's not really a hindrance.[/b] Once per turn during your Main Phase 1 you can pay 500 Life Points then this card lose 1000 ATK. [color=#000000][b]Completely useless effect is useless? Trying to dodge Bottomless in such a mannor is quite retarded since Forbidden Lance and MST exist to try and eliminate said problem (as well as stardust).[/b][/color] Once per turn you can pay 500 Life Points to select 1 face-up monster in ATK Position your Oponent controls it gains 1000 ATK until the End Phase. [color=#000000][b]....Okay.....[/b][/color] You take no Battle Damage involving this card. [color=#000000][b]So it's a freebe. No matter what, you're safe. Even with the effect before this, the card is going downhill...[/b][/color] When this card is selected as an attack target change this card to DEF Position. [color=#000000][b]And you take no damage from Piercers. [/b][/color] During your Battle Phase this card Looses 1000 ATK until the End Phase. [color=#000000][b]Then why the hell did you put an optional clause that decreases its ATK to 1000?! Now this thing is just turning into food.[/b][/color] When this card attacks a monster with higher ATK then this card's ATK inflict the difference of this card's ATK and the attack target's ATK to your Opponent Life Points. [color=#000000][b]Broke. You broke it. I can now effectively murder my opponent by dealing 100+ Damage...which is actually going to be roughly around 2k damage each.[/b][/color] If this card is destroyed by card's effect your opponent controls or battle Special Summon 1 rank 4 or lower Xyz monster with 2500 or less ATK that was Xyz Summon from your Extra Deck in your Graveyard, its effect is negated, it can not gain Xyz Materials and, it is destroy during your Opponent's End Phase. [color=#000000][b]How does this work?? Pot of Avarice is the only thing that comes to mind but...omg. The implications this would have as tribute fodder or what not. But then again, this isn't the effect that makes the card broken anyway.[/b][/color] [/Spoiler] [/quote] On top of that: Skill Drain target, RotA target, A. Zero Target, the card is just broke in design. Yugiohlogicdoesnotcomputepleasetry again. Oh...and as if I want to answer the reference.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I really hate to sound like a pretentious a******, but the effect is way too confusing for someone to sit through and decipher. If you'd put the effect in more coherent terms then people would be more inclined to read it in its entirety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='sora1499' timestamp='1347919313' post='6026877'] I really hate to sound like a pretentious a******, but the effect is way too confusing for someone to sit through and decipher. If you'd put the effect in more coherent terms then people would be more inclined to read it in its entirety. [/quote] Read my post and like me because I have just done what you have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Haha, sure Edit: I've read your post, and my conclusion is... it's pitifully broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/user/499193-chance-furlong/"]Chance Furlong[/url] took out one of the 1000atk stat changer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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