Alpakha Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 [img]http://i.imgur.com/iAHCj.jpg[/img] [spoiler=Lore]1 Tuner monster + 1 non Tuner monster This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Synchro Summoning. You can Tribute this card during your Main Phase 1, no monsters can be Special Summoned until your opponent's next End Phase. You cannot control more than 3 monsters when you activate this effect. You can only use the effect of "Cetacean Wings" once per Duel.[/spoiler] People have been saying this is underpowered, but it's purpose is to protect you not to lock down your opponent. It's effect is during MP1, so summon 3 monster then this thing. Tribute it and your opponent can't summon gorz, trag, etc. Or have a huge comeback with BLS and crud like that. It stops both inherent and non inherent summons so yeah. I posted this card a long time ago, but it was apparently horribly under powered. I changed it and now let's see how it'll do. Remember advance clause.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embittered Moon Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 This is still definetly underpowered. 'Cause you're gonna need to whip out 2 level 1's, one being a tuner of course. The Special Summon jamming is also very limited. Maybe a few support cards would help it, but other than that it may help to increase its level by at least one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 [quote name='≡>ⱤǺḠЄ<≡' timestamp='1349761801' post='6040774'] This is still definetly underpowered. 'Cause you're gonna need to whip out 2 level 1's, one being a tuner of course. The Special Summon jamming is also very limited. Maybe a few support cards would help it, but other than that it may help to increase its level by at least one. [/quote] A level 3 synchro? There's only 1 of those, what whatever. I'll update it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embittered Moon Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 [quote name='Kvn523' timestamp='1349761865' post='6040775'] A level 3 synchro? There's only 1 of those, what whatever. I'll update it [/quote] Whaat? I didn't know that. Idk. I think making it more versatile in general would help a lot. You might be able to do so by limiting the limitations xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 [quote name='≡>ⱤǺḠЄ<≡' timestamp='1349762155' post='6040776'] Whaat? I didn't know that. Idk. I think making it more versatile in general would help a lot. You might be able to do so by limiting the limitations xD [/quote] Well i'm afraid that it'll be abused in some way. Like an OTK or lock down and win over 2 turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embittered Moon Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 [quote name='Kvn523' timestamp='1349764405' post='6040784'] Well i'm afraid that it'll be abused in some way. Like an OTK or lock down and win over 2 turns. [/quote] Good point. I'm not really sure on any other suggestions though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 To be honest I think it should only limit your opponent from ssing but even then I still feel it's too much effort and commitment to make it only to lock down your opponent's SS and generally I'd rather just Tribute Summon Vanity's fiend as it does a similar thing but leaves you with a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 [quote name='Kabbles' timestamp='1349903548' post='6041765'] To be honest I think it should only limit your opponent from ssing but even then I still feel it's too much effort and commitment to make it only to lock down your opponent's SS and generally I'd rather just Tribute Summon Vanity's fiend as it does a similar thing but leaves you with a monster. [/quote] Everyone says it's underpowerd, but i'm just afraid that if a take off a limitation it'll be o'ped or be abused in someway. I don't know, i guess i'll change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Something that might improve this card is stopping both player's Special and Normal Summons. That should be fair enough because with this card's restriction you can only control 1 more monster to activate it (1 more monster + Cetacean would be the 3 monsters you cannot have), which would be attacking the opponent's monster (if any), and then neither player can Summon more monsters to attack with, essenttialy protecting you as you intended. Also don't forget that, for being a Synchro Monster, Summoning this monster costs you 1 card, so add that to the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 [quote name='Frex' timestamp='1349980714' post='6042344'] Something that might improve this card is stopping both player's Special and Normal Summons. [/quote] Normal summons too? That's just overkill.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 [quote name='AznKvn' timestamp='1350182277' post='6043959'] bump [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 First of all, it can only be Synchro Summoned, so that rules out Call of the Haunted, Limit Reverse etc. etc. Meaning, the last clause is not needed by that fact alone. Secondly, do you know how hard it actually is to Summon something like this? It being Level 3 means you either use a Level 2 non-tuner + Level 1 Tuner / Level 2 Tuner + Level 1 non-tuner or Level 1 Tuner + 2 Level 1 monsters. All of those can be accomplished, but name me a situation where you would have the materials ready to actually warrant the use of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Alright so less limits. I'll change level, but should i change back to 2 or make it level 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1350413628' post='6045859'] First of all, it can only be Synchro Summoned, so that rules out Call of the Haunted, Limit Reverse etc. etc. Meaning, the last clause is not needed by that fact alone. Secondly, do you know how hard it actually is to Summon something like this? It being Level 3 means you either use a Level 2 non-tuner + Level 1 Tuner / Level 2 Tuner + Level 1 non-tuner or Level 1 Tuner + 2 Level 1 monsters. All of those can be accomplished, but name me a situation where you would have the materials ready to actually warrant the use of this? [/quote] I think the once per duel clause stops multiples being used. Also it's fairly easy to make but it's jus that you'd always want to make something better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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