byak Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1350843309' post='6049908'] Wind-Ups are already dead, as I predicted. [/quote] um what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Zombies t8 gogogo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Top 8: 2 Agents 2 Geargia 1 Chaos Dragon 1 Gravekeeper 1 Zombie 1 Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark_ Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Only 1 Wind-Up deck made Top 16, this means that at the next YCS there will be less people bandwagoning Wind-Ups for their good showings and since they only managed to do good because overrepresented, I don't expect them to even make Top 32 next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1350843980' post='6049918'] Only 1 Wind-Up deck made Top 16, this means that at the next YCS there will be less people bandwagoning Wind-Ups for their good showings and since they only managed to do good because overrepresented, I don't expect them to even make Top 32 next time. [/quote] that doesn't even make any sense if they're underrepresented in the next big event the good players who aren't stupid (aka the people that top32-top16'd this event) and will most likely play Windups at the next event will do just as well, if not better due to the deck not being "overepresentated" and receiving less side deck attention just because there's a bunch of shitty players playing Wind-ups doesn't mean good players won't do well with them, wtf oh, and [quote]1. Simon He - Agents 2. Paul Levitin - Geargia 3. Tahmid Zaman - Chaos Dragons 4. Joseph Maddalena - Geargia 5. Cory Fowser - Wind-Ups 6. Anandeth Sinh - Wind-Ups 7. Bo Tang - Dino Rabbit 8. Philip Rivera - 9. Alexander Decolator - Wind-Ups 10. Dakota Poppe - Geargia 11. Michael Steinman - Wind-Ups 12. Johnathan Weigle - Wind-Ups 13. Andres Torres - Geargia 14. Robert Palumbo - Geargia 15. Michael Albanese - Wind-Ups 16. Christopher DiGregorio - 17. William Casaw - Sea Lancer Frogs 18. Kevin Rubio - Agents 19. Pedro Clemente - 20. Nicholas Ma - Wind-Ups 21. Thomas Chacko - 22. Daniel Vrabel - Agents 23. Johnathan Nagel - 24. Christopher LeBlanc - Geargia 25. Brad Pironciak - 26. Octavio Santiago - Heroes 27. Nicholas Amato - Agents 28. Justin Ashe - Gravekeepers 29. Garon Williams - Wind-Ups 30. Chris Tuttobene - 31. Nareg Torossian - Chaos Zombies 32. William Rodriguez - 6 Agents 6 Geargia [b]8 Wind-Up[/b] 1 Chaos Dragon 1 Sea Lancer Frog 1 Chaos Zombie 1 Dino-Rabbit 1 Gravekeeper's 1 Heroes 6 Unknown That's what I got for top 32, help anyone? [/quote] hurr windups are dead guys 1/4th of top 32 is nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 And there's the Agent drop off I was expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark_ Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 You're the one not making any sense here. It's simple reasoning: if a deck is overrepresented, it doesn't matter how shitty the players piloting it are, it will still have the most chances of making a good showing just by pure numbers. They were overrepresented here too, but they are just so shitty that only 1 Wind-Up deck managed to get a spot in Top 16. And I'm right because I say so, so stop wasting both of our time and stay silent, pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1350844604' post='6049923'] And I'm right because I say so, so stop wasting both of our time and stay silent, pls. [/quote]You lost the argument the second you started writing this line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1350844587' post='6049922'] And there's the Agent drop off I was expecting. [/quote] [img]http://www.geek-pride.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/no-darth_vader.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Shitty Wind-Ups don't make it to top 32 because if you don't know how to pilot the deck you lose terribly against good players. You might sack your way to 4-0 but after that you're f***ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark_ Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1350844668' post='6049926'] You lost the argument the second you started writing this line. [/quote] Oh noes, someone just said that I *gasp* lost an Internet argument, what will I do now? Nah, I don't give a f***. And still, 'til the next YCS showings I'm actually the one in the right here since you know, they didn't even manage to Top 8 and nobody gives a s*** about Top 32 etc. since only the winning decks are meta-relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1350845072' post='6049933'] And still, 'til the next YCS showings I'm actually the one in the right here since you know, they didn't even manage to Top 8 and nobody gives a s*** about Top 32 etc. [b]since only the winning decks are meta-relevant.[/b] [/quote] [quote]Courtney Waller piloted his Chaos Deck to victory over more than 600 other Duelists this weekend. Relying on the heavy-hitting power of Black Luster Soldier-Envoy of the Beginning, backed up with a suite of support cards like Maxx “C” and Tour Guide from the Underworld, Courtney has emerged as this weekend’s champion! Congratulations![/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 So... does... is that this winner or a past winner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Yes.... Becuase obviously wieght of Numbers means more than knowing how to play the deck well. The fact Wind-Ups only had one spot in the top 16 is mostly becuase people expect them. People expect them, they side, and the weaker players go out. And when players jump on the next bandwagon, the good Wind-Up players start topping because they are less expected. Its a kind of cycle. And oh yes. Your kind of odd statement at the end. Becuase you are you. Your opinion is therefore naturally better than ever other person on the planet, no matter how flawed your logic is. Heres a tip, you have your opinion. We have ours. Don't claim yours is better than everyone else of the 7 billion or so people on the planet, and we will get along fine. It is an opinion. Not a fact. You kind of killed your own argument by claiming your opinion was right. When opinions are opinions, no single opinion is any righter than any other. ... (Yes, I probably made no sense here, but oh well) You may not care about the internet, but if you are this self centred in your actual life I feel really sorry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1350844604' post='6049923'] It's simple reasoning: if a deck is overrepresented, it doesn't matter how shitty the players piloting it are, it will still have the most chances of making a good showing just by pure numbers. [/quote] Thats not how it works at all sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1350845330' post='6049936'] So... does... is that this winner or a past winner? [/quote] how do you not remember Courtney Waller http://www.konami.com/yugioh/blog/?p=7625 [img]http://i.imgur.com/ozzt3.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark_ Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='βyakk' timestamp='1350845196' post='6049935'].[/quote] Chaos decks are always very strong meta decks and last format T.G. Stun was actually one of the best decks around. Posting random rogue tops won't make your argument any more credible and even if it did, I still wouldn't give any f*** about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='βyakk' timestamp='1350845441' post='6049939'] how do you not remember Courtney Waller [/quote]I remember the decks, not the names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1350845482' post='6049940'] Chaos decks are always very strong meta decks and last format T.G. Stun was actually one of the best decks around. Posting random rogue tops won't make your argument any more credible and even if it did, I still wouldn't give any f*** about it. [/quote] My impression of shark: "f*** f*** s*** f*** fa**** I don't care about your opinion f*** s*** f***" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1350845482' post='6049940'] Chaos decks are always very strong meta decks and last format T.G. Stun was actually one of the best decks around. [/quote] what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark_ Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1350845411' post='6049938'] Thats not how it works at all sir. [/quote] Yeah okay, then let's put a very good Geargia player against 19 mediocre Wind-Ups players. Don't you think there will be a moment when the good player will happen to draw shitty or lose due to bad luck? It's bacis reasoning, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1350845072' post='6049933'] And still, 'til the next YCS showings I'm actually the one in the right here since you know, they didn't even manage to Top 8 and nobody gives a s*** about Top 32 etc. since only the winning decks are meta-relevant. [/quote] So if someone tops a YCS with a Tyrant Neptune deck then that would clearly be the new Tier 1 meta defining deck. You're either an idiot or a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1350845755' post='6049945'] Yeah okay, then let's put a very good Geargia player against 19 mediocre Wind-Ups players. Don't you think there will be a moment when the good player will happen to draw shitty or lose due to bad luck? It's bacis reasoning, really. [/quote] do you even realize the skill gap in windups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark_ Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='EmpoleMew' timestamp='1350845862' post='6049946'] So if someone tops a YCS with a Tyrant Neptune deck then that would clearly be the new Tier 1 meta defining deck. You're either an idiot or a troll. [/quote] Nice Ad Hominem. And no one would ever top with a Tyrant Neptune deck you useless tool. Btw keep on circle-jerking, I'm not replying anymore, like I would care about the opinion of some sh*tty ass players lel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 No, he obviously doesn't. A good Wind-Up player wins the mirror match like 80% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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