D.A._Sakuyamon Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 [center][img]https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/527545_262623683860992_1320790092_n.jpg[/img][/center] [center]Discuss Please [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 Why can't people just stick to the normal editor? This looks just egh. Anyways, I like the effect, I always hate Xyzs, so some anti support is nice. I would properly use this card if it wasn't for the fact that it was fiend, and I don't userly use fiend monsters. The picture is kinda eh, and it seems cut off. at the bottom, see the white thing? yeah, it's not pretty that's for sure. 8 Carrots out of 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted November 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 [quote name='Zaziuma' timestamp='1352213235' post='6062132'] Why can't people just stick to the normal editor? This looks just egh. Anyways, I like the effect, I always hate Xyzs, so some anti support is nice. I would properly use this card if it wasn't for the fact that it was fiend, and I don't userly use fiend monsters. The picture is kinda eh, and it seems cut off. at the bottom, see the white thing? yeah, it's not pretty that's for sure. 8 Carrots out of 10 [/quote] I'm only going to reply to the card image points. 1st: The normal card editor looks like crap. Simple as that. 2nd: Template I use makes it a bit annoying to line up the image properly which is why there is the white line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 [quote name='♥ D.A._Siegfried ♥' timestamp='1352213533' post='6062134'] I'm only going to reply to the card image points. 1st: The normal card editor looks like crap. Simple as that. 2nd: Template I use makes it a bit annoying to line up the image properly which is why there is the white line. [/quote]Well I'm sorry to say this my friend, but it looks better than this. I suggest you use YuGiCo's editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted November 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 [quote name='Zaziuma' timestamp='1352213901' post='6062137'] Well I'm sorry to say this my friend, but it looks better than this. I suggest you use YuGiCo's editor. [/quote] And I'm sorry to say this but both of those look worse then this. Simply put, it's your opinion that this looks worse and my opinion that this looks better. Now good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 Look at my card, now back to yours, now back to mine. Do you see the difference? It's way better, and looks way more like the original cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Zaziuma' timestamp='1352213901' post='6062137'] Well I'm sorry to say this my friend, but it looks better than this. I suggest you use YuGiCo's editor. [/quote] I'm a Yugico card maker myself and I gotta be honest, Yugico's template looks like... Balls. The only reason I use it is because Photoshop would just initiate its self destruct protocol the moment I open it. At least it's it's better than YCM's template which is basically what happens if Barney's retarded child designed card templates. OT: The effect is probably best described as a one time Effect Veiler that also stops Xyzs. But that's the tip of the iceberg. IMO, this card stands a few millimeters away to the right from the "YOU MUST USE IT OR YOUR FAMILY WILL BURN" line, meaning it will be used, just not as much as Effect Veiler. If you want to make it better, you [i]can [/i]make it's activation akin to that of D.D Crow/Maxx C/Veiler and make it a hand trap but that will just put it in the "WTF WERE YOU SMOKING WHEN YOU MADE THIS KONAMI?!" category. So for me, the card's good as it is. Not the best thing since sliced bread but not the worst thing since sliced Hitler either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 The anti-Xyz effect is good, but I think the card doesn't have the stats to make it work: If your opponent Summons 2 monsters for an Xyz Summon attempt, this card can disable 1 of those cards (assuming you Normal Summoned this your previous turn), but chances are the other one will have enough ATK to beat Jack and get rid of the effect without losing the disabled monster (Jack specifies that is the opponent monster which must leave the field to banish both). Of course, you could Set this card and hope it will survive the following attack(s) so you get to use its effect while in DEF Position, but the problem is that 1800 is not a reliable defense anymore: Boss and Extra Deck monsters can arrive as fast as in Turn 1, and beatsticks such as Rai-Oh can beat this card as well. My suggestion would be to raise the DEF to 1900 (on par to Snowman Eater) so it will stand against Rai-Oh and other beaters, and/or give him a Summoner Monk effect: Change it to Defense Position when Normal or Flip Summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted November 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Frex' timestamp='1352297836' post='6063068'] The anti-Xyz effect is good, but I think the card doesn't have the stats to make it work: If your opponent Summons 2 monsters for an Xyz Summon attempt, this card can disable 1 of those cards (assuming you Normal Summoned this your previous turn), but chances are the other one will have enough ATK to beat Jack and get rid of the effect without losing the disabled monster (Jack specifies that is the opponent monster which must leave the field to banish both). Of course, you could Set this card and hope it will survive the following attack(s) so you get to use its effect while in DEF Position, but the problem is that 1800 is not a reliable defense anymore: Boss and Extra Deck monsters can arrive as fast as in Turn 1, and beatsticks such as Rai-Oh can beat this card as well. My suggestion would be to raise the DEF to 1900 (on par to Snowman Eater) so it will stand against Rai-Oh and other beaters, and/or give him a Summoner Monk effect: Change it to Defense Position when Normal or Flip Summoned. [/quote] Actually, I don't think his effect disappears if he leaves the field. The main one anyways not the banished one. [quote name='★東洋★' timestamp='1352294027' post='6063052'] I'm a Yugico card maker myself and I gotta be honest, Yugico's template looks like... Balls. The only reason I use it is because Photoshop would just initiate its self destruct protocol the moment I open it. At least it's it's better than YCM's template which is basically what happens if Barney's retarded child designed card templates. OT: The effect is probably best described as a one time Effect Veiler that also stops Xyzs. But that's the tip of the iceberg. IMO, this card stands a few millimeters away to the right from the "YOU MUST USE IT OR YOUR FAMILY WILL BURN" line, meaning it will be used, just not as much as Effect Veiler. If you want to make it better, you [i]can [/i]make it's activation akin to that of D.D Crow/Maxx C/Veiler and make it a hand trap but that will just put it in the "WTF WERE YOU SMOKING WHEN YOU MADE THIS KONAMI?!" category. So for me, the card's good as it is. Not the best thing since sliced bread but not the worst thing since sliced Hitler either. [/quote] I can see why you would think of Effect Veiler but the idea of this guy was to be a monster version of Fiendish Chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Then you have to state in the card that the effect remains even after Jack is gone. Otherwise it is assumed that the effect is only active while the monster is face-up on the field; this is what prevents cards such as Genex Neutron and D.D. Sprite from being awesome, for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted November 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Frex' timestamp='1352302257' post='6063089'] Then you have to state in the card that the effect remains even after Jack is gone. Otherwise it is assumed that the effect is only active while the monster is face-up on the field; this is what prevents cards such as Genex Neutron and D.D. Sprite from being awesome, for instance. [/quote] Fair enough but wouldn't the lack of "[b]As long as you control this face-up card[/b], the selected monster cannot attack or be used as an XYZ material, and has its effect negated" imply that it still works even if it's removed? Or am I wrong in this thinking? ?.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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