a bad post Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Like the title says this might be insanely OP. Also first person to get the reference to an anime in my card gets a rep. [img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133364.jpg[/img] Anyway help me turn a OP card into a maybe OP card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Phoenix Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 It's really not too bad. If you want to limit it, maybe only have it so you can only control 1 White Snake Token, else I don't know what you could do that would be too much. Maybe also have it that she can't attack if you control a White Snake Token since they can attack and protect her. It's not like they burn like the other Snake Tokens, really it would just be Synchro and Summon Food in the end. Which doesn't make her very special, she could be anything and the motif wouldn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 ...I dont understand how this card really makes easy low rank xyzes when you cant xyz with tokens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a bad post Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 I thought you could, could've sworn that I saw that somewhere oh well, I guess this card just became Summon food, and Synchro foder. That you mido for correcting me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The card itself is pretty weak as a 2-Tribute with 1900 ATK. While the tokens stop it from being an attack target, have some ATK for once, and could be Sync/Tribute fodder, this is still susceptible to the frequent "kill cards" going around. This could be much better by not being Level 8. It could become a 1-Tribute, or even a monster that you can just Normal Summon. Alternatively, you could jack this card's ATK up, but that would make the immunity to being attacked worthless, so you could change that to something else (probably some built-in protection). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Phoenix Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1352552854' post='6065557'] ...I dont understand how this card really makes easy low rank xyzes when you cant xyz with tokens. [/quote] Where did the creator says it makes Xyz? Did I miss that part before an edit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 [quote name='A Background Character' timestamp='1352556759' post='6065575'] This could be much better by not being Level 8. It could become a 1-Tribute, or even a monster that you can just Normal Summon. Alternatively, you could jack this card's ATK up, but that would make the immunity to being attacked worthless, so you could change that to something else (probably some built-in protection). [/quote] Maybe is she could destroy a Snake Token in her place? [i]If this card would be destroyed, destroy 1 "White Snake Token" you control instead.[/i] Now, on the card: I don't find it OPed at all. First, to Summon her the easy way you will need the aid of either Spellbooks or Magician's Circle. The former can do perfecty well without this card, and the latter card is difficult to activate in a Format plagued by Solemns, Bottomless and Torrentials (Spellcasters have less chances for attacking). And if you draw into this, it will stay dead in the hand unless you run Trade-Ins. THEN, after you Summon this, with 1900 ATK she won't be killing anything soon, while Deck Bosses have 2500+ ATK and can kill monsters both by battle or by their effects, bypassing this card's protection from battle. At most, this card would stall for 3 turns, but that's about it. My suggestion would be to give her the aforementioned protection effect, and also some effect or Summoning condition that makes her useful in the hand (Maybe Tribute a Reptile-Type you control to Special Summon this?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Gustos Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Not to OP'd. This could pass for 5-6 star monster, but if you were to lower the lvl, you'll have to lower the tokens attck to maybe 1000-1500 or something. 1700 is pretty solid for a lvl 3 token. Kinda like what Frex said, you can make it to where if it's destroyed, you can destroy a snake token instead, kinda similar to how Shogun runs in Six Sams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunnoMan Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Underpowered if anything imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 [quote name='DunnoMan' timestamp='1352569724' post='6065705'] Underpowered if anything imo. [/quote] I'm nominating this for most helpful post ever. The tokens can stay at 1700 ATK if you make it Level 5-6, and if you make it Level 4, a 1300-1500 ATK value would stop this from singlehandedly dishing out too much damage for the effort you need to get this out. Don't give it a built-in SSing clause if you make it Level 8 and give it like 2800 ATK, or else you get an easily-Summonable 2800 monster that produces 1700 tokens that protect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patient99 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The reason you probably thought you can xzy's with tokens was I think they did something like that in the first few episodes on Zexal, I think if I remember hearing right Yuma uses kuribolt, which at the time could only mnake tokens by removing meterials, to overlay and summon utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunnoMan Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Actually, anime kurivolt summoned kurivolts from the deck. IIRC anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a bad post Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Card has been Editted, so anyway continue to discuss, peeps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodStarPrime Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I don't think it's too OP. I think it may be a limited or semi-limited though. 1700 is a little steep for a level 3, but maybe you could lower it's defense some to make it a little more balanced. I think this is a reference to Orochimaru or Kabuto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunnoMan Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 [quote name='A Background Character' timestamp='1352569967' post='6065713'] I'm nominating this for most helpful post ever. [/quote] Sorry, new here and not used to the posting style yet ^^; @Blood no lol it's still entirely balanced, and actually somewhat usable now. It's still entirely balanced, but it'd probably need a dedicated deck in order for it to shine. Perhaps make it so she can be tribute summoned with one monster if it's a reptile? Reptiles are very underused, and she could be splashed into something like aliens or worms. Though, probably to little success... Anyway, this card is in no way OP. It would not be hit, exactly what threat does it pose? Weak beaters each turn, and an protection effect which will go 90% unused? I'd say summon two tokens when it comes out, and no more after that(you'll rarely get more than two out anyway). And have them protect it from all destruction. That's just my idea to make it more viable, it's not poorly designed or anything. it just seems a little weak to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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