Strider Tigerwolf Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 [center][font=comic sans ms,cursive][size=4][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101020075234/yugioh/images/thumb/e/ec/InfernityZero-TF05-JP-VG.png/300px-InfernityZero-TF05-JP-VG.png[/img][/size][/font][/center] [center][font=comic sans ms,cursive][size=4][quote][/size][/font][/center] [center][font=comic sans ms,cursive][size=4][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]This card cannot be [/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Normal_Summon"]Normal Summoned[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)] or [/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Set"]Set[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]. This card cannot be[/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon"]Special Summoned[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)] except by this card's [/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Effect"]effect[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]. When your opponent[/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activate"]activates[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)] a card or effect that would inflict [/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Effect_damage"]damage[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)], while your [/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Life_Points"]Life Points[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)] are 2000 or less, you can [/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Discard"]discard[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)] all other cards in your [/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand"]hand[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)] to Special Summon this card from your hand. You do not lose the [/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Duel"]Duel[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)] even if your Life Points become 0. If you have no cards in your hand, this card cannot be [/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyed_by_battle"]destroyed by battle[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)]. For each time you take damage, place 1[/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Des_Counter"]Des Counter[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)] on this card. When there are 3 Des Counters on this card,[/background][/color][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy"]destroy[/url][color=#3A3A3A][background=rgb(253, 253, 253)] it.[/background][/color][/size][/font][/center] [center][font=comic sans ms,cursive][size=4][/quote][/size][/font][/center] [center][font=comic sans ms,cursive][size=4]Discuss plot device.[/size][/font][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 As a plot device, would work better used by a bad guy of a Faker/Tron like role. As a card (with that game effect)... burn damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Yeah...one of the most epic cards played in 5Ds, but the card is just ridiculously conditional to get the effect, and Infernities want their hands to be 0 as soon as possible. Meaning this card is only good if you lose by burn damage early game, before you had the chance to empty your hand. And after that, it only remains good if you can keep your hand empty AND can avoid taking battle or effect damage for, more or less, the remainder of the game. The only Deck I can think of that'd manage to trigger this consistently is Chain Burn, and let me assure you, they will manage to burn you 3 more times after you play this. But look, it's worse! you can only use the card's effect to SS it when you're about to take damage while at 2000 or less. Due to the wording, this is either a Quick Effect or a poorly worded Trigger Effect that can miss the timing easily, so...you chain this to a card that will burn you and Summon it. Then when you take the burn, you immediately get 1 Death Counter. And unlike the anime, which SSed when Kiryu actually hit 0, you can actually Summon this without being reduced to 0. Making the effect about preventing defeat almost completely worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1355780757' post='6096113'] Yeah...one of the most epic cards played in 5Ds, but the card is just ridiculously conditional to get the effect, and Infernities want their hands to be 0 as soon as possible. Meaning this card is only good if you lose by burn damage early game, before you had the chance to empty your hand. And after that, it only remains good if you can keep your hand empty AND can avoid taking battle or effect damage for, more or less, the remainder of the game. The only Deck I can think of that'd manage to trigger this consistently is Chain Burn, and let me assure you, they will manage to burn you 3 more times after you play this. But look, it's worse! you can only use the card's effect to SS it when you're about to take damage while at 2000 or less. Due to the wording, this is either a Quick Effect or a poorly worded Trigger Effect that can miss the timing easily, so...you chain this to a card that will burn you and Summon it. Then when you take the burn, you immediately get 1 Death Counter. And unlike the anime, which SSed when Kiryu actually hit 0, you can actually Summon this without being reduced to 0. Making the effect about preventing defeat almost completely worthless. [/quote] I believe the wording on there is just what they did in Tag Force since saying "When your life points hit 0" pretty much means you lose before you can summon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 What happens if you have this on the field but your opponent draws Exodia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 [quote name='EmpoleMew' timestamp='1355784150' post='6096179'] What happens if you have this on the field but your opponent draws Exodia? [/quote] I sense sarcasm, but in case you were being serious, Exodia is a win condition that doesn't affect Life Points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1355784207' post='6096181'] I sense sarcasm, but in case you were being serious, Exodia is a win condition that doesn't affect Life Points. [/quote] But you can't lose EDIT: Forget that Tag Force wording says Life Points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1355784207' post='6096181'] I sense sarcasm, but in case you were being serious, Exodia is a win condition that doesn't affect Life Points. [/quote] The wording would seem to suggest you can't lose at all, regardless of whether its by Life Points hitting 0 or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Huh. I don't know then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 i dont know where youre getting that from, because the way im reading it "you do not lose the duel [b]even[/b] if your life points are 0" implies that you can lose every other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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