Jord200 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_17:_Leviathan_Dragon 2 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Level"]Level[/url] 3 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card"]monsters[/url] Once per [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Turn"]turn[/url]: You can [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Detach"]detach[/url] 1 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Xyz_Material"]Xyz Material[/url] from this card; this card gains 500 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ATK"]ATK[/url]. If this card has no Xyz Material, it cannot [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Attack"]attack[/url] your opponent [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Direct_attack"]directly[/url]. disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Usually, this is best used for an offensive push mid-to-late game, but generally, it's better to go Zenmaines. This card is awesome in it's own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 tbf zenmaines is really good and rank 3 is not a good rank generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I love this card, because if an opponent summons it, it means they didn't summon Zenmaines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='clairedestroyer' timestamp='1355895126' post='6097826'] rank 3 is not a good rank generally. [/quote] Perhaps you need to take a tour of all the abusable Rank 3s. I know someone who can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1355897963' post='6097898'] Perhaps you need to take a tour of all the abusable Rank 3s. I know someone who can help. [/quote] Leviair's pretty much it. Zen is just stall while Levi's a big push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Sabers Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Part of Inzektor OTK. <3 Yeah, call me a jerk, I love me mah bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 For most of what this does, I actually usually prefer to go 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Still the 2nd best Rank 3 in some decks and the 3rd best in the rest. Always worth running IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Solves many problems and puts pressure on the opponent. It's a bad idea to Summon it on the first turn, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 It's a 25 beater than you can TGU into. Not bad, just a bit simplistic. Although one time I was playing against rabbit verz, I had utopia with 0 mats and 17 on the field, and he rabbited into ophion and I was like faaaaaak! But guess what he did? He attacked utopia and left 17! So I beat his ass with a 3k 17, and it was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 You know Utopia causes a replay, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 If his opponent didn't, that's his problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1355933659' post='6098110'] You know Utopia causes a replay, right? [/quote] Not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopy Star - Eon Sphere Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I just like that it triggers atlanteans. Even though you hardly ever Xyz with them. They just couldn't make it Sea Serpent, could they? It would have had so much more synergy with my Generation F!sh deck, even though that is pretty much my proxy until I get mah Cronomalies. Also, I need this card for my exams. I have a terrible work ethic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1355935657' post='6098124'] Not anymore. [/quote] Yeeeah it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='Kettleblack' timestamp='1355943419' post='6098206'] Yeeeah it does. [/quote] They changed it back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1355943844' post='6098214'] They changed it back? [/quote] As far as I know it was always the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='Kettleblack' timestamp='1355943918' post='6098218'] As far as I know it was always the case. [/quote] Well for a time people on here and DN said it didn't cause a replay, I'm not sure if that's still true or not, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1355944083' post='6098220'] Well for a time people on here and DN said it didn't cause a replay, I'm not sure if that's still true or not, though. [/quote] DN's DN. At Nationals and YCS Sheffield it was ruled that it causes a replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Konami released a new ruling that utopia does not cause a replay anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1355944321' post='6098226'] Konami released a new ruling that utopia does not cause a replay anymore... [/quote] I haven't heard such a thing, but the ruling that it causes a Replay is from the Judge Program Forum, and hasn't been confirmed as TCG-applicable. Nonetheless it's destroyed in the Battle Step and [i]should[/i] cause a Replay. Revise Dragon would be OK in Atlanteans, but Marksman -> Attack Squad -> Revise would require running Attack Squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='newhat' timestamp='1355949543' post='6098272'] Revise Dragon would be OK in Atlanteans, but Marksman -> Attack Squad -> Revise would require running Attack Squad. [/quote] Linde + Marksman works, but honestly, there's a lot more that you can do with a linde and a marksman than number 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='Shradow' timestamp='1355944083' post='6098220'] Well for a time people on here and DN said it didn't cause a replay, I'm not sure if that's still true or not, though. [/quote] That was never true to begin with. [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1355944321' post='6098226'] Konami released a new ruling that utopia does not cause a replay anymore... [/quote] Give source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I don't have a source on me, but I heard it from azneyes on YouTube and I'm pretty sure that a couple guys on here mentioned it in a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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