Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120607014657/yugioh/images/thumb/e/e9/MasterHyperion-GLD5-EN-GUR-LE.jpg/300px-MasterHyperion-GLD5-EN-GUR-LE.jpg[/img] Because I need a "Now who wants to talk about murders" meme for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 No one murders like Black...ston. OT: DAD clones were never the best designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hounds Of Anubis Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 What I find weird is why people b**** more about Graphas than this. And heck, I personally don't really see the problem with this. It's just a very good, very efficient card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Topdecks is to Hyperion as sackiness is to Grapha. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hounds Of Anubis Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 It's hard to "sack" when you can see half your deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 ... I'm confused. How is drawing a boss @3 less sacky than searching a boss essentially @6 for searching purposes? And isn't topdecking just a fancy way to say sacking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Grapha doesn't sack so much as he floats and punches your opponent in the face. Repeatedly. With those ugly talons of his. OT: I <3 this guy. Could he be hit? Maybe. Do I give two shits? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Actually, now that you bring it up, it kind of doesn't make any sense. :\ Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Edit: Sorry Dante, that was uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hounds Of Anubis Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 At least he has the brain power to realise when he's wrong unlike somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 [quote name='Borderline Unplayable' timestamp='1357098646' post='6108771'] At least he has the brain power to realise when he's wrong unlike somebody. [/quote] Chris, that hurt my feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1357099189' post='6108777'] Chris, that hurt my feelings. [/quote] He's still right. You have no right to call Dante out over admitting he was wrong. OT: I would gladly see this banned / limited to get Earth and Striker at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hounds Of Anubis Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 idek why you'd make fun of someone admitting they made a bloody mistake. Sora, you make me wish negs were back. But you also make me wish you'd f*** off. You're an insipid little twat and suck at a game you appear to think you're good at. Do us all a favour and either get better or leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 It was just a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hounds Of Anubis Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Your jokes are stale and lack in any actual hilarity in the punchlines, while appearing to come off as serious due to your shitty attitude. The rest of my post still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Its a watered down DAD with easier summoning conditions that needs a bit of deck dedication..Still a bit too free for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Both this and Grapha need to be at 0. Both have insanely easy summoning conditions with a potential +1 each turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hounds Of Anubis Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 By that logic we also ban Machina Fortress, Chaos Sorcerer and a plethora of other cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Well, at least Machina Fortress isn't 'herpderp' and requires some amount of interaction. This just explodes things and Grapha just doesn't froggin' die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 This is so similar to Dark Armed Dragon yet it is at 3. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Fortress isn't a guaranteed + (unless you crash it with something that's 2500 attack). Sorcerer should be at 0 as well. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I don't like your 3-0 sentimentality. Can't you find any room to be flexible? Hyperion at 1 is fine because Agents are then forced to run a bad version of a Deck to be viable without completely killing them off. And unlike DAD, Hyperion actually has a cost to bring out. Amazing, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 The difference in view between Master Hyperion and Grapha's plussing is based around 3 things from what I can tell: 1. Master Hyperion eliminates resources from the Graveyard to plus (and summon). Grapha doesn't and, in fact, puts your resources where you can best use them while plussing. 2. Master Hyperion involves some resemblance of p2p interactions (one monster affecting an opponent's monster), Grapha is all about himself (though knowing Grapha, that seems rather fitting) 3. People seem to be more okay with handling loss of field presence knowing they can come back with the draw and eliminate Hyperion without too much of a chance of it popping back up. For Grapha, well, I guess people just don't like seeing a card they've killed not stay dead. Having a 3000 ATK monster on the field is okay for most people knowing they can get rid of it. It's just tough when getting rid of it doesn't get rid of it. That's the main reason I'd say people say it's worse than Hyperion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 No. 3-0 is logically consistent. Let's be real, here: Agents would still be decent if Hyperion were at 1. They'd be tier 2, but Hyperion would just become another sacky topdeck. If you got rid of [i]all [/i]the sacky topdecks (BLS, Hyperion, Reborn, Rekindling, Miracle Fusion, etc), the game would be much better off. So yes, Hyperion at 1 would make the deck more "balanced" in this format, but we should be aiming to make the deck more balanced in a [i]good[/i] format. Edit: I agree that Grapha is considerably worse from a design standpoint than Hyperion, being a recurring +1 from the graveyard. I just think that Hyperion is pretty broken too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 3-0 logic is awful. A card doesn't haw to be at 0 if its badly designed, and the game wouldn't be fun if it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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