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Overpowered? - - - - Dark Spirit Embodyment {Prime-Ace John}


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Yes, I know "Embodiment" is spelled wrong - just pretend I spelled it right.

Please tell me what you think - hate, like, fix, etc.

For more cards, check my Sig.


[spoiler=Ultimate Rare][IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/fsboo.jpg[/IMG]

This card cannot be Special Summoned. This card can only be Normal Summoned by tributing 3 face-up DARK monsters.This card cannot attack the turn it was summoned. If this card was summoned this way, pay half your Life Points to activate 1 of the following effects:
*Remove from play up to 3 monsters in your graveyard and have your opponent discard 2 cards.
*Remove this card from play and have your opponent discard 5 cards.[/spoiler]



[spoiler=Secret Rare][IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/4u7214.jpg[/IMG]

This card cannot be Special Summoned. This card can only be Normal Summoned by tributing 3 face-up DARK monsters.This card cannot attack the turn it was summoned. If this card was summoned this way, pay half your Life Points to activate 1 of the following effects:
*Remove from play up to 3 monsters in your graveyard and have your opponent discard 2 cards.
*Remove this card from play and have your opponent discard 5 cards.[/spoiler]



[spoiler=Ultra Rare][IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/29deb12.jpg[/IMG]

This card cannot be Special Summoned. This card can only be Normal Summoned by tributing 3 face-up DARK monsters.This card cannot attack the turn it was summoned. If this card was summoned this way, pay half your Life Points to activate 1 of the following effects:
*Remove from play up to 3 monsters in your graveyard and have your opponent discard 2 cards.
*Remove this card from play and have your opponent discard 5 cards.[/spoiler]



Like all the cards I usually post, I made them a while ago.

I can understand if/could the second effect be OP, but I'm not sure since you basically have to tribute 3 DARKS - which won't go so well with a Chaos Deck

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It's like, really weird. The summoning clause makes this really tricky to use, but the effects are so damn good that it's probably worth summoning. The thing I don't like about it is the +4 effect. People are going to abuse that, John. So please burn it. The first effect is ok, given the steep summoning clause. As it is, it's quite balanced.

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[quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1358213786' post='6121146']
It's like, really weird. The summoning clause makes this really tricky to use, but the effects are so damn good that it's probably worth summoning. The thing I don't like about it is the +4 effect. People are going to abuse that, John. So please burn it. The first effect is ok, given the steep summoning clause. As it is, it's quite balanced.
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That's what I though, too.

After looking back, the second 1 is OP.

What was I thinking - having your opponent discard 5 cards?!

Wow...

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[color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]*Remove from play up to 3 monsters in your graveyard and have your opponent discard 2 cards.*[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Up to 3 monsters? ... So i can remove only 1 right?[/size][/font][/color]
[font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#5a5a5a][size=3]The second effect is broken... you can easily summon it with *Feelings for the future*, or fires of doomday... So, i suggest:[/size][/color][/font]
[font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#5a5a5a][size=3]*Banish this face-up card to have your opponent discards thier entire hand, then your opponent draws 2 cards... :D[/size][/color][/font]
[color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Im sorry, Feelings for the future wont work...[/size][/font][/color]

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Yup. It's pretty broken. The first effect I can live with, but the second one is pretty damn broken. Chaos Dragons can use it, Chaos in general can use it and Verz will be very happy indeed if this thing is printed. The first effect is abusable because the way you word it, you can remove 1 card and still discard 2 cards. At this point I would say the second effect is broken but it actually isn't. Your opponent needs to have 5 cards in his/her hand to use it, which is downright impossible right now unless it's the first turn or if you happen to be against Exodia. However, it's still pretty broken because some decks will find a way to summon it in the first turn and create FTKs everywhere. Sorry bro, card's no good. Burn it with acid.

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[quote name='★東洋★' timestamp='1358245911' post='6121433']
Yup. It's pretty broken. The first effect I can live with, but the second one is pretty damn broken. Chaos Dragons can use it, Chaos in general can use it and Verz will be very happy indeed if this thing is printed. The first effect is abusable because the way you word it, you can remove 1 card and still discard 2 cards. At this point I would say the second effect is broken but it actually isn't. Your opponent needs to have 5 cards in his/her hand to use it, which is downright impossible right now unless it's the first turn or if you happen to be against Exodia. However, it's still pretty broken because some decks will find a way to summon it in the first turn and create FTKs everywhere. Sorry bro, card's no good. Burn it with acid.
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Mazera DeVille rulings...
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Mazera_DeVille
Im confused...

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[quote name='Rainagain' timestamp='1358246037' post='6121435']
Mazera DeVille rulings...
[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Mazera_DeVille"]http://yugioh.wikia....:Mazera_DeVille[/url]
Im confused...
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Those rulings were made by Upper Deck, so it's considered unofficial by Konami. Plus, Mazera's effect is different since the target is picked at random but with this your opponent picks the cards they discard. I don't know what difference that makes but I just want to point that out.

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[quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1358252649' post='6121489']
The first effect is fine... You're going -3 to summon this, then collecting a +2, so it's still a -1 to use AND you halve your life. So it's not so bad.
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That was my point. Other people can't realize what you have to go through...

The second effect goes along with a major drawback - you have to tribute 3 DARKs, then remove the card from play (most likely leaving you open), and half your LP all to make your opponent discard 5.

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