Kingdom Xathers Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 1 DARK Tuner + 1 or more LIGHT non-Tuner monsters This card is also treated as a LIGHT monster. This card cannot be banished. When a monster(s) is banished by a card effect: This card gains 200 ATK for each of those banished monsters. Once per turn: You can discard 1 card from your hand or the top of your Deck to target 1 card in either player's Graveyard; banish that target. Critique and Comment, please and thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 1 DARK Tuner + 1 or more LIGHT non-Tuner monster(s) If you already said "1 or more" you don't need that part^ This card is also treated as a LIGHT monster. This card cannot be banished. When a monster(s) is banished by a card effect: This card gains 200 ATK for each banished monster. So for example, if you use Soul Release to banish 5 monsters, he gains 1000 ATK, then if you Summon Chaos Sorcerer by banishing 2 more, he'll gain 1400 ATK, counting all banished monsters? No, well, since I think you most likely mean it gains only for the monsters being banished at that moment and not recounting everything, scratching what I scratched above will make foolproof text. Once per turn: You can discard 1 card from your hand or the top of your Deck to target 1 card in either player's Graveyard; banish that target. I don't think discarding back to the Deck is actually a thing. Cards that trigger from discarding need to go to the Graveyard, where they become public knowledge and can activate, if they return to the Deck, they are not gonna trigger, and most cards that trigger when discarded say "discard to the Graveyard" anyways, so what is this part for? I think you are looking for "return 1 card from your hand to the Deck". As for the card itself, it's a beatsticks that succeeds on what it does, so I have no complains. I am currently thinking it'd be nice if it was just a generic Synchro instead of the DARK/LIGHT Synchro Material requirements, but I probably am missing something... right? EDITED: I just saw you don't "shuffle" the card back into the Deck, so I edited a bit up there. Oh, and [b]b[/b]anish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 1 DARK Tuner + 1 or more LIGHT non-Tuner monster(s) If you already said "1 or more" you don't need that part^ Duly noted. This card is also treated as a LIGHT monster. This card cannot be banished. When a monster(s) is banished by a card effect: This card gains 200 ATK for each banished monster. So for example, if you use Soul Release to banish 5 monsters, he gains 1000 ATK, then if you Summon Chaos Sorcerer by banishing 2 more, he'll gain 1400 ATK, counting all banished monsters? No, well, since I think you most likely mean it gains only for the monsters being banished at that moment and not recounting everything, scratching what I scratched above will make foolproof text. You are correct on the "banished at that moment" part, but not about the Chaos Sorcerer thing, since this card's effect only applies when a monster is banished by a card effect, not as a cost. Once per turn: You can discard 1 card from your hand or the top of your Deck to target 1 card in either player's Graveyard; Banish that target. I don't think discarding back to the Deck is actually a thing. Cards that trigger from discarding need to go to the Graveyard, where they become public knowledge and can activate, if they return to the Deck, they are not gonna trigger, and most cards that trigger when discarded say "discard to the Graveyard" anyways, so what is this part for? I think you are looking for "return 1 card from your hand to the Deck", or the newer "shuffle 1 card from your hand into the Deck". It's not "discarding to the top of the Deck", it's "either discard from your hand OR 'discard' from the top of your Deck". I just didn't feel like wasting space by writing "You can discard 1 card from your hand, or send 1 card from the top of your Deck to the Graveyard...," and figure that what I had written would get the point across just as well. As for the card itself, it's a beatsticks that succeeds on what it does, so I have no complains. I am currently thinking it'd be nice if it was just a generic Synchro instead of the DARK/LIGHT Synchro Material requirements, but I probably am missing something... right? His requirements are supposed to be "symbolic", if you will; I had originally conceived this card over a year ago back when I was in this one RP, in which Wulf, Lightsworn Beast "went rogue" and turned to Chaos, thus why the non-Tuner requirement is LIGHT. For example, you would Synchro Summon this using Wulf, Lightsworn Beast as the non-Tuner and, say, Junk Synchron as the DARK Tuner requirement. Of course, you could use any LIGHT monster, but I'll just leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 1 DARK Tuner + 1 or more LIGHT non-Tuner monster(s) If you already said "1 or more" you don't need that part^ Duly noted. This card is also treated as a LIGHT monster. This card cannot be banished. When a monster(s) is banished by a card effect: This card gains 200 ATK for each banished monster. So for example, if you use Soul Release to banish 5 monsters, he gains 1000 ATK, then if you Summon Chaos Sorcerer by banishing 2 more, he'll gain 1400 ATK, counting all banished monsters? No, well, since I think you most likely mean it gains only for the monsters being banished at that moment and not recounting everything, scratching what I scratched above will make foolproof text. You are correct on the "banished at that moment" part, but not about the Chaos Sorcerer thing, since this card's effect only applies when a monster is banished by a card effect, not as a cost. Yeah, but the point I was after made it, right? xD Once per turn: You can discard 1 card from your hand or the top of your Deck to target 1 card in either player's Graveyard; Banish that target. I don't think discarding back to the Deck is actually a thing. Cards that trigger from discarding need to go to the Graveyard, where they become public knowledge and can activate, if they return to the Deck, they are not gonna trigger, and most cards that trigger when discarded say "discard to the Graveyard" anyways, so what is this part for? I think you are looking for "return 1 card from your hand to the Deck", or the newer "shuffle 1 card from your hand into the Deck". It's not "discarding to the top of the Deck", it's "either discard from your hand OR 'discard' from the top of your Deck". I just didn't feel like wasting space by writing "You can discard 1 card from your hand, or send 1 card from the top of your Deck to the Graveyard...," and figure that what I had written would get the point across just as well. Oh, I mistook the word "or" with "to" in there, so you can forget this point ^^"... It'd be "send 1 card from your hand or the top of your Deck to the Graveyard" but alright. As for the card itself, it's a beatsticks that succeeds on what it does, so I have no complains. I am currently thinking it'd be nice if it was just a generic Synchro instead of the DARK/LIGHT Synchro Material requirements, but I probably am missing something... right? His requirements are supposed to be "symbolic", if you will; I had originally conceived this card over a year ago back when I was in this one RP, in which Wulf, Lightsworn Beast "went rogue" and turned to Chaos, thus why the non-Tuner requirement is LIGHT. For example, you would Synchro Summon this using Wulf, Lightsworn Beast as the non-Tuner and, say, Junk Synchron as the DARK Tuner requirement. Of course, you could use any LIGHT monster, but I'll just leave it at that. I can respect that reason. It decreases the amount of cards/decks it can be used with, but it certainly is not necessarily a bad thing, yeah. Awesome, the quoting mechanic works as it should again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I still feel that "discard" instead of "send to the Graveyard" works better, since this allows his cost to bypass cards like Macro Cosmos, which would otherwise prevent him from paying his cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I still feel that "discard" instead of "send to the Graveyard" works better, since this allows his cost to bypass cards like Macro Cosmos, which would otherwise prevent him from paying his cost. Fair enough, though if you play against Macro Cosmos users, odds are that they are not gonna need their Graveyard anyways. just saying. I guess it's a legit reason, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kingdom Xathers Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Second bump that I'm allowing myself for this topic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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L0SS Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 A beatstick with a nice little bonus in that he can banish a card from either players graveyard. In some builds he has the ability to gain some serious attack, but he isn't really that usable outside of that. I do like the card though, and it's nice to see simple design integrated into the more complex concepts of yugioh (don't know if it's just me, but when I create a synchro that is based around banished cards, it ends up entirely overblown). Overall, I'd say it's pretty spot-on. Smack down a Banisher of the Light, and you could really make this a force to be reckoned with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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