Ren✧ Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 When this card is Normal Summoned: Target 1 Spell/Trap Card your opponent controls; its effects are negated, also it cannot be activated. Cards and effects cannot be activated in response to this effect. If this card as an Xyz Material is sent to the Graveyard to activate an Xyz Monster's effect: Target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls; its effects are negated as long as the Xyz Monster is on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Seems pretty awful. Any time this would be useful, Starliege Paradynamo is better. Make it if you control 2+ other LIGHT and not tribute at all. -1 for a weak negate doesn't mean anything and wouldn't be run anywhere. Even with that added, it's only decent not good, and Hunders wouldn't run it. Vylon Prism and Batteryman AAA take up all the space this thing could ever warrant. It just doesn't do anything that other cards don't do better, and it doesn't preserve the advantage it would use in Xyz Summoning with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Seems pretty awful. Any time this would be useful, Starliege Paradynamo is better. Make it if you control 2+ other LIGHT and not tribute at all. -1 for a weak negate doesn't mean anything and wouldn't be run anywhere. Even with that added, it's only decent not good, and Hunders wouldn't run it. Vylon Prism and Batteryman AAA take up all the space this thing could ever warrant. It just doesn't do anything that other cards don't do better, and it doesn't preserve the advantage it would use in Xyz Summoning with it. In all honesty, when I saw that you commented here I was expecting to see the topic locked, lol. Alright, I can see your point there. Will try to beef it up a bit. EDIT: Alright, gave it a little more 'oomph' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleaknight Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 It doesn't seem of too much use for me since the Hunder family would probably rather Xyz into something than use this. Still, it's an interesting design that could often ensure some of their plays by locking an opponent's face-down S/T which may seem dangerous, like for example when you're up against Fire Fists and you know such face-down S/T is a Fire Formation - Tensen. About the OCG, it needs corrections. Activation conditions are denoted with a colon, not a semi-colon, semi-colons are for costs. Also, the second effect needs a "you can". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted March 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 It doesn't seem of too much use for me since the Hunder family would probably rather Xyz into something than use this. Still, it's an interesting design that could often ensure some of their plays by locking an opponent's face-down S/T which may seem dangerous, like for example when you're up against Fire Fists and you know such face-down S/T is a Fire Formation - Tensen. About the OCG, it needs corrections. Activation conditions are denoted with a colon, not a semi-colon, semi-colons are for costs. Also, the second effect needs a "you can". Yeah I don't suppose his second effect would get any use, but the first effect is easily done with the Hunders. I was actually thinking of getting rid of the second effect and adding an effect if he was detached. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleaknight Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Yeah I don't suppose his second effect would get any use, but the first effect is easily done with the Hunders. I was actually thinking of getting rid of the second effect and adding an effect if he was detached. Thoughts? May be a better-fitting idea. Also, here's my OCG suggestion for the first effect and also a suggestion for a new effect based on what you just said. "When this card is Normal Summoned: Target 1 Spell/Trap Card your opponent controls; its effects are negated, also it cannot be activated. Cards and effects cannot be activated in response to this effect. Once per turn, if you control at least 2 other LIGHT monsters: You can target 1 monster your opponent controls; its effects are negated and it cannot attack or change its battle position until your opponent's next End Phase." "When this card is Normal Summoned: Target 1 Spell/Trap Card your opponent controls; its effects are negated, also it cannot be activated. Cards and effects cannot be activated in response to this effect. If this card as an Xyz Material is sent to the Graveyard to activate an Xyz Monster's effect: That Xyz Monster gains 500 ATK." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted March 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 May be a better-fitting idea. Also, here's my OCG suggestion for the first effect and also a suggestion for a new effect based on what you just said. "When this card is Normal Summoned: Target 1 Spell/Trap Card your opponent controls; its effects are negated, also it cannot be activated. Cards and effects cannot be activated in response to this effect. Once per turn, if you control at least 2 other LIGHT monsters: You can target 1 monster your opponent controls; its effects are negated and it cannot attack or change its battle position until your opponent's next End Phase." "When this card is Normal Summoned: Target 1 Spell/Trap Card your opponent controls; its effects are negated, also it cannot be activated. Cards and effects cannot be activated in response to this effect. If this card as an Xyz Material is sent to the Graveyard to activate an Xyz Monster's effect: That Xyz Monster gains 500 ATK." Thanks for the OCG fix, but I think I want something more original than ATK gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleaknight Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Thanks for the OCG fix, but I think I want something more original than ATK gain. Well I couldn't really think of anything that would fit the Hunders theme while not being overused or redundant like allowing 1 more normal summon or something. Besides, it was more about showing the correct way to word such trigger than about suggesting the effect itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted March 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Well I couldn't really think of anything that would fit the Hunders theme while not being overused or redundant like allowing 1 more normal summon or something. Besides, it was more about showing the correct way to word such trigger than about suggesting the effect itself. Yeah I figured. Anyway, I was kinda of trying to stick to a paralyzation theme for this card. Originally when you had to Tribute a monster to activate his effect, it was supposed to be like that monster's essence was becoming the electricity that he shot, but that obviously was a bad design. But yeah, added an effect for when it is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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