L0SS Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Each Player reveals 1 card from their hand. If one card is higher Level than the other, the card with the lower Level is sent to the Graveyard, and the player who revealed it takes 1000 damage. (Non-Monster Cards are treated as Level 0.) [hr] I thought I'd pick up on a few of the stranger cards floating around. Since when was treating something as level 0 a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Treating it as level 0 doesn't actually change anything, it's just to make Spells/Traps beaten by anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0SS Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Yeah, but it would nice to see treating something as a Level 0 as an implemented idea. The game is crying out for a Level 0 tuner. Somebody quite recently created one in RC, come to think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 The card is pretty meh, if you want to put your own card in the Grave, DWD does the job better, and your opponent has that ability as well. The idea behind Level 0 could be interesting, but then it would break any Synchro with a multiple monster requirement for it's non-Tuners (Mist Worm etc.) but would be neat. My Extra Deck archetype features a form of Level 0, though if you know about Stack Monsters already, they're different from normal Levels. Maybe I should explore a new ED monster. EDIT: What happens if they are the same Level? I assume the cards stay, as it says "is higher than the other", but I am not 100 % sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0SS Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I think you're right. It says 'If one card is higher Level than the other'; so I assume nothing is sent to the graveyard if both cards are the same level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 So many better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 So many better option. So many better grammar! Can you list a few for good measure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 a level zero tuner is a horrendous idea. much like this card. if you wanna force your opponent to discard theres a myriad of options. if you wanna burn theres even more. even doing both isnt the rarest thing in the world. and luck based cards are always situational and rarely good. think that covers it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0SS Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I think it was they way they'd made the card work that was interesting to me. It seems highly illogical, and more than a little weird. As for Level 0 tuners, care to explain why you dislike the idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 As for Level 0 tuners, care to explain why you dislike the idea? Summon a Level 8 or higher Trap Monster or Token, get some Level 0 tuners, and there you go, high Level synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 As for Level 0 tuners, care to explain why you dislike the idea?Breaks game mechanics by having a Level that isn't between 1 and 12. Also basically says lol this one monster can be used entirely for x, which is silly because you turn boss monsters into other boss monsters for practically nothing.Also I think the funniest part about this card is playing E-Drags with this and revealing Obelisk/REDRUM for $. Not good, just pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Also I think the funniest part about this card is playing E-Drags with this and revealing Obelisk for $. Not good, just pretty funny. Explain what you mean by $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Explain what you mean by $What other decks play a monster with a Level higher than 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0SS Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 What other decks play a monster with a Level higher than 10 Gate Guardian maybe? I kid, of course. I think in terms of a Level 0 tuner, although turning a boss into another boss might be a little stupid, in my mind it would be a Level 1 that could be treated as a Level 0 for a synchro summon. That would avoid it by passing certain card effects. OT: You could play this with God cards for lulz. Or Trag might be able to use it for a fun time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Its funny, I feel like this could be an extremely trolly tech card in Elementals and/or Machinas. When you think about it, assuming it goes off it IS a +0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I think it was they way they'd made the card work that was interesting to me. It seems highly illogical, and more than a little weird. As for Level 0 tuners, care to explain why you dislike the idea? because its a complete mockery of establish game mechanics (monsters have a minimum level of 1 unless they have a rank instead), lets you freely swap main deck and extra deck monsters for nothing (imagine going e-dragon into black rose for a field wipe, then using that black rose as fodder for another e-dragon. or hell. level 5 easy to throw down monster into librarian. level 2 floater into formula. and on and on). theres no way to make the concept balanced in our current card pool, and theres no positive traits it would bring to the game. its just more cool looking but useless and harmful crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0SS Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Fair point. I see how E-dragons can pull things out of nowhere. And I see that it makes things like Formula Synchron more readily available. I wouldn't go as far to say it makes 'a mockery' of game mechanics, as it's really quite a simple idea and doesn't necessitate much in the way of ruling changes or anything else; although, that doesn't excuse the fact it's most likely a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 because its a complete mockery of establish game mechanics (monsters have a minimum level of 1 unless they have a rank instead), lets you freely swap main deck and extra deck monsters for nothing (imagine going e-dragon into black rose for a field wipe, then using that black rose as fodder for another e-dragon. or hell. level 5 easy to throw down monster into librarian. level 2 floater into formula. and on and on). theres no way to make the concept balanced in our current card pool, and theres no positive traits it would bring to the game. its just more cool looking but useless and harmful crap. The current game really restricts many other ideas like that doesn't it? If it was ever done, it'd be something like a Level 8+ monster that cannot be Special Summoned to balance it out, or something equally extreme. Of course, it most likely won't happen. OT: It's a funny +0. It's main bad point that I see is that it doesn't let you even randomly choose the opponent's card, and they'll always take advantage of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Reveal a Timelord. Burn. Summon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Reveal a Timelord. Burn. Summon it. It's only a 1000 burn, if this was plus 500 for each of it's Levels or something (I know that's gonna be unbalanced, but still, it is still luck based (for the most part)), then it would probably be worth it. Otherwise, meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hollow Man Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 but then it would break any Synchro with a multiple monster requirement for it's non-Tuners (Mist Worm etc.) Would it, though? Is getting two non-tuners that add up to 8 to go with your level 1 tuner so that much harder than getting two non-tuners that add up to 9 to go with your level 0 tuner that allowing the level 0 tuner would break the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 By the way, if it's a tie, neither card is sent to the Graveyard and no burn occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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