ihop Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 I remember when this was a deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Thank god for that last clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 It's still a deck, a tier 2 deck, in TCG. It drops to tier 3 soon/now because verz and sacreds both came to TCG, and soon E-Drag's will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 It's still a deck, a tier 2 deck, in TCG. It drops to tier 3 soon/now because verz and sacreds both came to TCG, and soon E-Drag's will come. I'm wondering if he's referring to FrogTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 It's still a deck, a tier 2 deck, in TCG. It drops to tier 3 soon/now because verz and sacreds both came to TCG, and soon E-Drag's will come. Please explain how Verz stops Frogs at all. Sacreds and Elemental Dragons are a valid point, however, Caius, Raiza and LaDD > Ophion. Also, they can't stop Caius with Dress or Infestation because Caius does not destroy, nor does Raiza. LaDD can just run it over. Anyway, Frogs will be Frogs. What else is there to be said about him except that it's pretty inherently bad design, but less so than Treeborn, albeit both would probably be at 1 in a perfect format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Nah, just that Elemental Dragons and Prophecies with Judgment, and Level 3 Fire Fists, and Evilswarms (Constellars are a good tier 2) blow this out of the water, along with most other decks. Mermails probably dropped to near-bottom of the tier 1, tbh, not because it became weaker but others are faster or counter it too well. Frogs can beat Evilswarm, yes, so can Constellars and various other decks, but Evilswarm's point is that it can counter the real problem decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 FrogMonarchs only concern in the EvilSwarm matchup is BTS/Chain and g2 and 3 macro. Vs E Dragons its more like Fader DDS. if ladd is on field though it becomes tougher as you now have to have a swap frog to make LaDD loose Counters for the handtrap dds play. G2 and G3 end of anubis and vanity's fiend. literally spellbooks are monarchs toughest matchup because of Jday and chaining out of our first turn ladd. also they can reveal for priestess and Fate laughs at treeborn so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Not sure if it should have never existed... I still have horrible memories of FrogTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Not sure if it should have never existed... I still have horrible memories of FrogTK. I find this a bit fine concept wise, the big issue in FrogTK was substitoad and his dropping of every Frog in the deck in 1 turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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