Ren✧ Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 3 "Red-Eyes" Dragon-Type monsters You can banish the above cards from your hand and/or field: Special Summon this card from your Extra Deck(This is treated as a Fusion Summon). This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard. If this card would be sent to the Graveyard or banished by an opponent's card: You can decrease the ATK of this card by 1200 instead. During your Standby Phase: You can Special Summon 1 banished "Red- Eyes" for each time this card's ATK was decreased by its own effect. If this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard: Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand, Deck, or Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshpalStefan Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Once again, nice work on the pictures and the templates, really nice. Anyhow, as for the actual cards, I can see that they were probably made as good boss monsters that can counter cards that would stop them from coming to the field aka Bottomless Trap Hole, Torrential Tribute, and so on. I enjoy that someone made cards that withstand the onslaught of destructive power. As for the actual effect, although summoning a banished red-eyes might seem overpowered to some, I don't see it that way. Considering that you'd only be able to special summon one monster and by the time next turn comes the opponent could've hit three destructive traps, you've basically got a 0 ATK monster with the capability to SS one extra monster. So, in my opinion, this card is actually underpowered. Maybe make it to special summon banished red-eyes monster equal to the amount of times his ATK was lowered? The ATK is fine at 3600, it's great for a boss monster, but it's the DEF that worries me. Maybe make it 2000? I'm sorry but 3000 DEF is really hard to get over, considering that he can be summoned easily by removing any red-eyes monsters. If it were to remove 3 Red-Eyes B. Dragons, I'd understand the high DEF, but you need lower DEF stats for monsters that can be brought out with any 3 Red-Eyes monsters. I don't really have many other quirks with the card, SSing a Red-Eyes B. Dragon is no big deal considering that it can be easily destroyed, so that's balanced. Overall good job, but I've pointed out what I dislike about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anozariel Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Very good cards, the concept and the image as well! Usually i dont like the "Red-Eyes" cards of other people, but here it is the exception. :) In my opinion your card(s) are really strong but i have some little changes. Exactly 2. 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" + 2 "Red-Eyes" Dragon-Type monsters This card can only be Special Summoned from your Extra Deck by removing from play the above cards you control. (You do not use "Polymerization".) If this card would be sent to the Graveyard or banished by an opponent's card: You can decrease the ATK of this card by 1200 instead. During your Standby Phase, if this card's ATK is less than it was during your last End Phase: Special Summon 1 banished "Red-Eyes" monster to your side of the field. If this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard: Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand, Deck, or Graveyard. My 1st change is the materials of this card. I have multiple reason behind this. Just to swarm my field with 3 "Red-Eyes" monsters is not hard at all. We do have 2 low level "Red-Eyes" monsters ("Red-Eyes B. Chick", "Red-Eyes Wyvern") and i hope that nobody has forgotten about the "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon". I guess first it looks cheap, you can say that i am paranoid, but please, allow me te bring up some easy combo; - 1st combo: "One for One" + "Red-Eyes B. Chick" + "Inferno Reckless Summon". - 2nd combo: Any "Hieratic" Dragon brings the "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from hand, Deck or Graveyard + Inferno Reckless Summon. - 3rd combo: Anything what you can imagin with the "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon" And the reason behind that the "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" is material, the last effect of the "Red-Eyes Ultimate Dragon". If this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard: Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand, Deck, or Graveyard. Why can i special summon a "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from my hand, Deck or Graveyard when there is a preaty high probability that i never used it to summon this card? My 2nd change is the summoning condition. Since we have a tons of cards to bring this monster back from the Graveyard. (for example "Monster Reborn", "Red-Eyes Wyvern", "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon" and some other.) And i think with these restrictions the 3000 DEF is acceptable. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Once again, nice work on the pictures and the templates, really nice. Anyhow, as for the actual cards, I can see that they were probably made as good boss monsters that can counter cards that would stop them from coming to the field aka Bottomless Trap Hole, Torrential Tribute, and so on. I enjoy that someone made cards that withstand the onslaught of destructive power. As for the actual effect, although summoning a banished red-eyes might seem overpowered to some, I don't see it that way. Considering that you'd only be able to special summon one monster and by the time next turn comes the opponent could've hit three destructive traps, you've basically got a 0 ATK monster with the capability to SS one extra monster. So, in my opinion, this card is actually underpowered. Maybe make it to special summon banished red-eyes monster equal to the amount of times his ATK was lowered? The ATK is fine at 3600, it's great for a boss monster, but it's the DEF that worries me. Maybe make it 2000? I'm sorry but 3000 DEF is really hard to get over, considering that he can be summoned easily by removing any red-eyes monsters. If it were to remove 3 Red-Eyes B. Dragons, I'd understand the high DEF, but you need lower DEF stats for monsters that can be brought out with any 3 Red-Eyes monsters. I don't really have many other quirks with the card, SSing a Red-Eyes B. Dragon is no big deal considering that it can be easily destroyed, so that's balanced. Overall good job, but I've pointed out what I dislike about it. Changed it for every time the ATK is decreased. Very good cards, the concept and the image as well! Usually i dont like the "Red-Eyes" cards of other people, but here it is the exception. :) In my opinion your card(s) are really strong but i have some little changes. Exactly 2. 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" + 2 "Red-Eyes" Dragon-Type monsters This card can only be Special Summoned from your Extra Deck by removing from play the above cards you control. (You do not use "Polymerization".) If this card would be sent to the Graveyard or banished by an opponent's card: You can decrease the ATK of this card by 1200 instead. During your Standby Phase, if this card's ATK is less than it was during your last End Phase: Special Summon 1 banished "Red-Eyes" monster to your side of the field. If this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard: Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand, Deck, or Graveyard. My 1st change is the materials of this card. I have multiple reason behind this. Just to swarm my field with 3 "Red-Eyes" monsters is not hard at all. We do have 2 low level "Red-Eyes" monsters ("Red-Eyes B. Chick", "Red-Eyes Wyvern") and i hope that nobody has forgotten about the "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon". I guess first it looks cheap, you can say that i am paranoid, but please, allow me te bring up some easy combo; - 1st combo: "One for One" + "Red-Eyes B. Chick" + "Inferno Reckless Summon". - 2nd combo: Any "Hieratic" Dragon brings the "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from hand, Deck or Graveyard + Inferno Reckless Summon. - 3rd combo: Anything what you can imagin with the "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon" And the reason behind that the "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" is material, the last effect of the "Red-Eyes Ultimate Dragon". If this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard: Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand, Deck, or Graveyard. Why can i special summon a "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from my hand, Deck or Graveyard when there is a preaty high probability that i never used it to summon this card? My 2nd change is the summoning condition. Since we have a tons of cards to bring this monster back from the Graveyard. (for example "Monster Reborn", "Red-Eyes Wyvern", "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon" and some other.) And i think with these restrictions the 3000 DEF is acceptable. :) Made it so it can't be Special Summoned from Grave. I still want the option of Polymerization there, even though it probably will never be used. I see your point with the materials, but I feel if that might be too restrictive, so I am going to wait and see if anyone else thinks the same. Same goes for the DEF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anozariel Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Yep, nobody will use [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Polymerization]Polymerization[/url], the [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon's_Mirror]Dragon's Mirror[/url] is the best option here. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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