New Lightsworn Monster

[6412225]

In the spirit of the creation of Raiden and Minerva and Michael, I decided to try my hand at making another monster for my favorite archtype. Constructive criticism most welcome!

[Masaaki71484]

So this is basically a 1900 removal dodging and undying badass with basically no drawback....wow I am new but this seems a bit OP I mean this could have easily have had 1300-1600 atk and it would still be playable since no one is gonna beat stick with it just mill XYZ summon. This is either extremely powerful or Broken

[Cofvy]

So this is basically a 1900 removal dodging and undying badass with basically no drawback....wow I am new but this seems a bit OP I mean this could have easily have had 1300-1600 atk and it would still be playable since no one is gonna beat stick with it just mill XYZ summon. This is either extremely powerful or Broken

It's once per DUEL. So not undying and fairly reasonable considering lightsworns have JD.

[Slinky]

It's once per DUEL. So not undying and fairly reasonable considering lightsworns have JD.

 

So, just because they have JD, its reasonable? what kind of backwards logic is that?

[Masaaki71484]

Once per duel right...hmmm don't Blackwings have a similar card....and isn't that card EXTREMELY POWERFUL and had to be limited to ONE. this one is MUCH easier to get to because it is much easier to mill than draw in this format so pretty much you would be hitting this eff T1 and 95 percent of the time hitting this card T2 or T3 meaning either XYZ or SYN almost never beat stick people don't beat stick with 1900 on T1 anymore people beat stick with 2600's on T1 making its extra attack poinys unnecessary and making 1900 to 2000 atk for a four star monster mean nothing. It should have around 1500 atk at the most in my humble opinion.

[Toffee.]

Guys, this card isn't once-per-duel.
Pay close attention to the card text: Zado isn't Hato.
 

So, just because they have JD, its reasonable? what kind of backwards logic is that?

He doesn't know any better. That's why.

[6412225]

I'm just tossing ideas out there. I thought it would be kinda fun. I understand the issue with the attack and defense stats for an instant summon, but it still is only once per duel so it can't be abused for plays for days or anything. It's a free plus one monster for lightsworns and it's not like this card would ever destroy the format or anything.

[6412225]

This may be a bit more balanced. What do you think?

 

You can Special Summon this card (from your graveyard) by sending the top 2 cards of deck to the graveyard. Each player may activate this effect of "Hato, the Lightsworn Wizard" once per duel. During each of your End Phases: Send the top 3 cards of your Deck to the Graveyard. You must control this face-up card to activate and to resolve this effect.

 

  ATK/ 1100      DEF/ 1200

 

[Masaaki71484]

Tough to say since the only other card to do this makes you discard a card and return one to your hand this one for the build it is in effects are all boons which could mean that if you mill this card could literally allow you to win the game. What if you banished a light monster from your graveyard instead.

[HeavyWeaponsSpy]

Once per duel right...hmmm don't Blackwings have a similar card....and isn't that card EXTREMELY POWERFUL and had to be limited to ONE. this one is MUCH easier to get to because it is much easier to mill than draw in this format so pretty much you would be hitting this eff T1 and 95 percent of the time hitting this card T2 or T3 meaning either XYZ or SYN almost never beat stick people don't beat stick with 1900 on T1 anymore people beat stick with 2600's on T1 making its extra attack poinys unnecessary and making 1900 to 2000 atk for a four star monster mean nothing. It should have around 1500 atk at the most in my humble opinion.

You're an idiot.  Zephyros was never limited as far as I know.  Blackwing players only play 1 because you can only use his effect ONCE.  Also his card is reasonable.  It's a 1900 beatstick/Xyz Material/Sync Material that protects itself from JD.  Sure it can be kind of abused with Scrap Dragon but that's all I can think of. 

[Masaaki71484]

SO YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT ZEPHYROS IS NOT LIMITED....look at the ban/limited list and speak to me again because he is in my deck and HE IS LIMITED TO 1.

[Sunn O)))]

SO YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT ZEPHYROS IS NOT LIMITED....look at the ban/limited list and speak to me again because he is in my deck and HE IS LIMITED TO 1.

 

Zephyros is not limited.

 

As for the card, its fine. Like mentioned previously, it can be abused by Scrap Dragon, and it survives JD, so it's really not broken. It's also only once per duel. Might be OP at best.

 

Also, its summoning effect isn't worded as an effect, and it says "Hato, the Lightsworn Wizard" instead of "Zado, the Lightsworn Wizard".

 

"If this card is in your Graveyard: You can send the top 2 cards of your deck to the Graveyard; Special Summon this card from your Graveyard. You can only use this effect of "Zado, the Lightsworn Wizard" once per Duel. During each of your End Phases: Send the top 3 cards of your Deck to the Graveyard. You must control this face-up card to activate and to resolve this effect."

[6412225]

The cards name was originally Hato, but I changed it to Zado because it is spelled like the Japanese word for "wizard" which is Uizādo. Plus it kinda sounded cooler. :)

[ihop]

Oh goodness. Milling the top 2 cards to summon a 1900 level 4 beater is ridiculous in a whole load of decks, not just Lightsworn.

 

You need to at least reduce its ATK so that it's not a good standalone monster, and at least make it Lightsworn-specific by saying you can only use the effect if you have a Lightsworn in grave. Still, it's incredibly broken for a various number of reasons. Glow-Up Bulb is banned for a reason.

[6412225]

Oh goodness. Milling the top 2 cards to summon a 1900 level 4 beater is ridiculous in a whole load of decks, not just Lightsworn.

 

You need to at least reduce its ATK so that it's not a good standalone monster, and at least make it Lightsworn-specific by saying you can only use the effect if you have a Lightsworn in grave. Still, it's incredibly broken for a various number of reasons. Glow-Up Bulb is banned for a reason.

 

I made a comment that the new atk of this card is not 1900 but 1100. In response to the Glow-Up Bulb comparison, Zado is not a tuner so if can't be abused in that sense. And I realize Rank 4 xyz's are a thing, and that this is a virtually free +1, but are there not cards like Goblindberg, Summoner Monk, and even Copy Knight? While it is good, I don't think it is as overpowered as some think.

[Sander]

And I realize Rank 4 xyz's are a thing, and that this is a virtually free +1, but are there not cards like Goblindberg, Summoner Monk, and even Copy Knight? While it is good, I don't think it is as overpowered as some think.

 

You cannot compare cards like Goblindberg / Summoner Monk or Copy Knight to a card like this. Why? Because those cards interract with cards in your hand / has a cost to Summon a Level 4 from the deck, while this has a laughable cost and a plethora of uses.

 

The card is broken because it's ease of revival. It's what Glow-Up Bulb was to Synchro Monsters in the Synchro meta. In this day of age, a card like this, that can be revived by milling 2 to make a Rank 4 is nothing but broken and if you think otherwise, you suck at this game.

[ihop]

I made a comment that the new atk of this card is not 1900 but 1100. In response to the Glow-Up Bulb comparison, Zado is not a tuner so if can't be abused in that sense. And I realize Rank 4 xyz's are a thing, and that this is a virtually free +1, but are there not cards like Goblindberg, Summoner Monk, and even Copy Knight? While it is good, I don't think it is as overpowered as some think.

 

Goblindbergh etc are all not +1s. Pulling a random +1 out of the ass at literally no cost and in fact at more of an advantage is never good.

 

EDIT: Zanda says it better.

[6412225]

There is no reason to insult me Zanda. Perhaps I'll fix it so that there does have to be some amount of lightsworn monsters in the grave to use the effect as %iHop said before. Do you think that may balence it out?

[Sander]

There is no reason to insult me Zanda. Perhaps I'll fix it so that there does have to be some amount of lightsworn monsters in the grave to use the effect as %iHop said before. Do you think that may balence it out?

 

No, it'll still be broken whether or not you add the Lightsworn limitation to it or not.

[6412225]

This would be the new card text:

 

If this card is in your graveyard and you have 2 or more Lightsworn monsters with different names in your graveyard, you can special summon this card by sending the top 2 cards of deck to the graveyard. Each player may activate this effect of "Zado, the Lightsworn Wizard" once per duel. During each of your End Phases: Send the top 2 cards of your Deck to the Graveyard. You must control this face-up card to activate and to resolve this effect.

 

And let's just keep in mind here, that this is Lightsworns we're talking about. This one card would not near boost them to competitive.

[Sander]

And let's just keep in mind here, that this is Lightsworns we're talking about. This one card would not near boost them to competitive.

 

That doesn't matter when the card is not f***ing balanced. The whole point of this section is to create realistic and balanced cards, and this definitely is not the latter.

[6412225]

Ok quit getting so worked up about this. I thought it would be a cool design and I like the Lightsworn archetype. It has been watered-down a lot since I first posted this and we can have our own opinions. You may be more right than I am due to your seniority, but I still like the card, and I think it is pretty balanced.

[Sander]

Ok quit getting so worked up about this. I thought it would be a cool design and I like the Lightsworn archetype. It has been watered-down a lot since I first posted this and we can have our own opinions. You may be more right than I am due to your seniority, but I still like the card, and I think it is pretty balanced.

 

Bias such as this does not make for a good card maker. You need to look at the card and think about what it can do, in Lightsworns, or in Chaos Dragons (herpderp, 3x Ryko / 3x Lyla) etc. etc. Long story short, instant Xyz out from nowhere is not balanced, and I repeat, if you think that it's balanced, you really are an imbecile.

[6412225]

Again with the name calling. I may be new at card making and sure a little biased toward Lightsworns but there is no need for you to insult a new card creator like this. This is my first card and expect it to be perfect? Where do you get off insulting me like this when, again keep in mind, this is my first ever card. So please, I would gladly accept you and your suggestions if you had the common decency to be more polite.

[Delibirb]

Zanda just likes to... do what he does. While the way he expresses his points may not be acceptable, the points are still valid.

 

While it is only OPD, the revival effect has no legitimate cost; in the decks that would use it, thats a random +1 and assistance for later combos. I like the adjustments that have been made so far, but you really do have to rethink the cost of the revival a bit. Maybe you have to banish 2 Lightsworn monsters (possibly selected by opponent?) from the grave, or even returning however many cards from the hand to the deck could be decent.

 

(Also, I would consider updating the original post with the changes made so far.)