Ren✧ Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 ...Xyz Hate that is... 1 Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters During either player’s turn, if your opponent Xyz Summoned 3 or more Xyz Monsters: You can Special Summon this card from your Extra Deck. This effect of "Keeper of Star Essence" can only be used once per turn. If this card is Synchro Summoned: Detach 1 Xyz Material from all face-up Xyz Monsters, and destroy all face-up Xyz Monsters with no Xyz Materials attached. While this card is face-up on the field Xyz Monsters must detach an Xyz Material to declare an attack. You can only control 1 face-up "Keeper of Star Essence." "These beings from the stars. They have access to a power source that has gone relatively untapped. I must make that power mine!" -Keeper of Star Essence Any CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is greatly appreciated and will be +REPPED [ Previous Card l Next Card ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 I'm not completely sure, I think this might work better: "If this card is Synchro Summoned: Detach 1 Xyz Material from all face-up Xyz Monsters; If you cannot: target a face-up Xyz monster that has no Xyz material monsters: Destroy that target." To the card in general, it's a really great anti-Xyz card. Anti meta? not sure. It's not really anti-fusion at all, if that was part of your intent. But, otherwise, it's a pretty awesome card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted June 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 I'm not completely sure, I think this might work better: "If this card is Synchro Summoned: Detach 1 Xyz Material from all face-up Xyz Monsters; If you cannot: target a face-up Xyz monster that has no Xyz material monsters: Destroy that target." To the card in general, it's a really great anti-Xyz card. Anti meta? not sure. It's not really anti-fusion at all, if that was part of your intent. But, otherwise, it's a pretty awesome card. No, no, no, I didn't mean to say that it was Anti-Fusion. I was more or less saying that I've fallen out of touch with the meta-game, and was wondering if Shadolls and Masked Heroes had dominated the scene. As for the change of wording, that wasn't quite what I was looking for as if just 1 monster didn't have materials then the effect kinda falls apart. I was looking for something more along the lines of it still taking away a material from all face-up monsters, and destroys those that don't have any materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 No, no, no, I didn't mean to say that it was Anti-Fusion. I was more or less saying that I've fallen out of touch with the meta-game, and was wondering if Shadolls and Masked Heroes had dominated the scene. As for the change of wording, that wasn't quite what I was looking for as if just 1 monster didn't have materials then the effect kinda falls apart. I was looking for something more along the lines of it still taking away a material from all face-up monsters, and destroys those that don't have any materials. Ok. um, try this: "If this card is Synchro Summoned: Detach 1 Xyz Material from all face-up Xyz Monsters; If you cannot: target all face-up Xyz monsters that have no Xyz material monsters: Destroy those targets." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Ok. um, try this: "If this card is Synchro Summoned: Detach 1 Xyz Material from all face-up Xyz Monsters; If you cannot: target all face-up Xyz monsters that have no Xyz material monsters: Destroy those targets." Closer, but I want it to do both effects simultaneously, but I think I've worked something out. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Glad to be of assistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 You could simply go with the following for the card's second effect: If this card is Synchro Summoned: Detach 1 Xyz Material from all face-up Xyz Monsters on the field with Xyz Material, and destroy all face-up Xyz Monsters on the field with no Xyz Materials. Now on the effect, I dislike the summoning condition you gave it and the psychological impact is has on the game: Not only it can become a free +1 for you with the shape of a beater, but just for existing (you don't even need to have this in your Extra Deck) it discourages the opponent from using the effects of 2 or more Xyzs in a single turn, and that is unfair in my opinion. Granted, if you dropped 2+ Xyzs in a single turn and used their effects, you are most likely overxtending and thus you more or less deserve to be punished, but if your opponent used the effect of a Xyz he/she summoned previously, then you are punishing him/her for playing the game. In addition, certain Xyzs will be able to fulfill this card's summoning conditions by themselves (e.g. Castel, S.H.Ark). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 You could simply go with the following for the card's second effect: If this card is Synchro Summoned: Detach 1 Xyz Material from all face-up Xyz Monsters on the field with Xyz Material, and destroy all face-up Xyz Monsters on the field with no Xyz Materials. Now on the effect, I dislike the summoning condition you gave it and the psychological impact is has on the game: Not only it can become a free +1 for you with the shape of a beater, but just for existing (you don't even need to have this in your Extra Deck) it discourages the opponent from using the effects of 2 or more Xyzs in a single turn, and that is unfair in my opinion. Granted, if you dropped 2+ Xyzs in a single turn and used their effects, you are most likely overxtending and thus you more or less deserve to be punished, but if your opponent used the effect of a Xyz he/she summoned previously, then you are punishing him/her for playing the game. In addition, certain Xyzs will be able to fulfill this card's summoning conditions by themselves (e.g. Castel, S.H.Ark). So more of a restriction on the summoning condition. Perhaps detaching 3 Xyz Materials in a turn? Summoning 2 or more Xyz Monsters? Controlling 3 or more Xyz Materials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Personally, I would stay away from those kind of effects because it is like taking hand traps to a whole new level (Extra Deck traps?), but that's just me. To balance it, I think the first option should be enough; that way, at least it won't be an easy +1 after your opponent uses S.H.Ark, Castel, Paladynamo, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Personally, I would stay away from those kind of effects because it is like taking hand traps to a whole new level (Extra Deck traps?), but that's just me. To balance it, I think the first option should be enough; that way, at least it won't be an easy +1 after your opponent uses S.H.Ark, Castel, Paladynamo, etc. But then what is to separate this card from Stardust or Scrap Dragon? Sure it fulfills a different niche, but most of the time I would think decks that can easily get out level 8s would rather get stardust out. I agree that it is taking hand traps to another level, and I see the danger in that, but if I were to switch it to: Xyz Summoning 3 or more Xyz Monsters. It would only be punishing those that overextend. It still allows for Rank-Up plays and the like, but stops the opponent from swarming the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 woah several days ago (earlier) i post this (rate Please): http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/318761-007-blanclad-white-outburst/ glad we have same mind for the card:i want to comment but most of above user have said it LOL. but would it be too situational for wait to 3 ? maybe 2 Xyz summons is enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 for the card:i want to comment but most of above user have said it LOL. but would it be too situational for wait to 3 ? maybe 2 Xyz summons is enough? Two Xyz Summons would make it so your opponent is afraid to Rank-Up cards and the like, and we don't want to punish them for just playing their deck well. Summoning three Xyz Monsters is a different story, however; as more than likely, at that point, they are overextending and deserve what's coming to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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