evil cucumber Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Lv 3 / Reptile-type / WATER 1000/1500 You can only use each effect of "Wind-up Snake" once per turn: (1) When a "Wind-up" monster is Normal or Special Summoned to your side of the field: You can discard this card; Set 1 "Zenmai" or "Wind-up" Spell/Trap card directly from your Deck. (2) When this card is Summoned: You can target 2 "Wind-up" monsters you control; change one of their Levels to the current Level of the other, until the End Phase. I've been playing wind-ups recently and i noticed they need a searcher for their spells/traps. Its kind hard to pull the combos when you have no Factory on the field :(. Anyway, any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 No. Being able to search Wind-Up Factory is completely and totally unfair. Zenmai S/T is one thing, WU S/T is just asking for trouble, and absolutely awful design, especially as Rat + This = A R3 + search, and if Zenmaity ever comes back/OCG is taken into account, that is straight up stupid design, as it sets you up for Shark Magician as well, potentially. Second effect seems fine, but that first one... no, that's too much potential to snowball the gamestate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 No. Being able to search Wind-Up Factory is completely and totally unfair. Zenmai S/T is one thing, WU S/T is just asking for trouble, and absolutely awful design, especially as Rat + This = A R3 + search, and if Zenmaity ever comes back/OCG is taken into account, that is straight up stupid design, as it sets you up for Shark Magician as well, potentially. Second effect seems fine, but that first one... no, that's too much potential to snowball the gamestate. Now I really haven't played or faced Wind-Ups enough to know how devastating the (1) effect is, but if a Factory search in this manor is really that broken, might I suggest the following? (1) When a "Wind-up" monster is Normal or Special Summoned to your side of the field: You can discard this card; Set 1 "Zenmai" or "Wind-up" Spell/Trap card directly from your Deck, but it cannot be activated during the turn it was Set this way. That way it is kinda a -2 just to Set Factory, and it gives your opponent a chance to clear it. It also gives a bit more incentive to Set a Zenmai trap (as there are no wind-up traps) since the added restriction basically as no effect on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 No. Being able to search Wind-Up Factory is completely and totally unfair. Zenmai S/T is one thing, WU S/T is just asking for trouble, and absolutely awful design, especially as Rat + This = A R3 + search, and if Zenmaity ever comes back/OCG is taken into account, that is straight up stupid design, as it sets you up for Shark Magician as well, potentially. Second effect seems fine, but that first one... no, that's too much potential to snowball the gamestate. You make it sound like BA won't just rape your ass with their constant chainable trap line up or that Qliphorts give a fuck about xYz with searchable skill drain and regular skill drain or that Heros would allows you to plus off any of this or that Necloth would give a flying fuck..power creep is cheapLv 3 / Reptile-type / WATER 1000/1500 You can only use each effect of "Wind-up Snake" once per turn: (1) When a "Wind-up" monster is Normal or Special Summoned to your side of the field: You can discard this card; Set 1 "Zenmai" or "Wind-up" Spell/Trap card directly from your Deck. (2) When this card is Summoned: You can target 2 "Wind-up" monsters you control; change one of their Levels to the current Level of the other, until the End Phase. I've been playing wind-ups recently and i noticed they need a searcher for their spells/traps. Its kind hard to pull the combos when you have no Factory on the field :(. Anyway, any thoughts? make it so you can only use one effect outa two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 You make it sound like BA won't just rape your ass with their constant chainable trap line up or that Qliphorts give a f*** about xYz with searchable skill drain and regular skill drain or that Heros would allows you to plus off any of this or that Necloth would give a flying f***..power creep is cheapmake it so you can only use one effect outa twoYou make it sound like BA is a suitable argument in design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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