The Dark One Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 I run this deck as well and i think you need 2 jinzo and 3 darklord zerato Uh no. You never run more than 1 Darklord Zerato. Jinzo is used at one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 HOW CAN RED EYES POSSIBLY BE FASTER 2 TRIBUTES 1 HAS 2400 ATK THE OTHER 3000 DO THE F****** MATH AND IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU USE REDD THEN U PHAIL ok im done ^_^ Easy. Lots of abusable support. People say Prime Material Dragon is broken. Red Eyes B Dragon is rather easy to summon. Red Eyes Darkness Dragon is easier to summon than Blue Eyes Shining Dragon. Masked Dragon = summon Red Eyes B Chick. Red Eyes B Chick = summon Red Eyes B Dragon. Red Eyes B Dragon = summon Red Eyes Darkness Dragon. Continuously revive and retribute Red Eyes and overpower your opponent with 3000+ Monsters. Throw in Five Headed Dragon and Dimension Fusion and execute an OTK. As for extra support against Mirror Force for example. Prime Material Dragon can easily deal with that and other problems. It also shuts down burn decks like Volcanic decks and stops them dead in their tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Except it doesn't even stand a chance against traditional Perfect Circle, let alone DAD Return or DDT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 HOW CAN RED EYES POSSIBLY BE FASTER 2 TRIBUTES 1 HAS 2400 ATK THE OTHER 3000 DO THE F****** MATH AND IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU USE REDD THEN U PHAIL ok im done ^_^ Easy. Lots of abusable support. There's nothing even remotely abusable in REBD support. People say Prime Material Dragon is broken. Which has nothing to do with REBD. Try again. Red Eyes B Dragon is rather easy to summon. But it's not even close to worth it. Red Eyes Darkness Dragon is easier to summon than Blue Eyes Shining Dragon. Except that better REBD builds don't use REDD' date=' and better BEWD builds don't use BESD. Masked Dragon = summon Red Eyes B Chick. K. Red Eyes B Chick = summon Red Eyes B Dragon. So far' date=' we're at a 2-card combo that takes at least a turn to pull off. Red Eyes B Dragon = summon Red Eyes Darkness Dragon. That's a 3-card combo. There are 3-card combos that win games. Continuously revive and retribute Red Eyes and overpower your opponent with 3000+ Monsters. So you have more copies of REDD and extra revival cards in your hand? This combo is taking a lot of cards. Throw in Five Headed Dragon and Dimension Fusion and execute an OTK. Awesome' date=' we add Dragon's Mirror and Dimension Fusion. The combo is up to 9 cards, one of which is Limited. As for extra support against Mirror Force for example. Prime Material Dragon can easily deal with that and other problems. It can do so for BEWD as well. It also shuts down burn decks like Volcanic decks and stops them dead in their tracks. When did Prime Material Dragon become REBD-exclusive support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 HOW CAN RED EYES POSSIBLY BE FASTER 2 TRIBUTES 1 HAS 2400 ATK THE OTHER 3000 DO THE F****** MATH AND IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU USE REDD THEN U PHAIL ok im done ^_^ Easy. Lots of abusable support. There's nothing even remotely abusable in REBD support. People say Prime Material Dragon is broken. Which has nothing to do with REBD. Try again. Red Eyes B Dragon is rather easy to summon. But it's not even close to worth it. Red Eyes Darkness Dragon is easier to summon than Blue Eyes Shining Dragon. Except that better REBD builds don't use REDD' date=' and better BEWD builds don't use BESD. Masked Dragon = summon Red Eyes B Chick. K. Red Eyes B Chick = summon Red Eyes B Dragon. So far' date=' we're at a 2-card combo that takes at least a turn to pull off. Red Eyes B Dragon = summon Red Eyes Darkness Dragon. That's a 3-card combo. There are 3-card combos that win games. Continuously revive and retribute Red Eyes and overpower your opponent with 3000+ Monsters. So you have more copies of REDD and extra revival cards in your hand? This combo is taking a lot of cards. Throw in Five Headed Dragon and Dimension Fusion and execute an OTK. Awesome' date=' we add Dragon's Mirror and Dimension Fusion. The combo is up to 9 cards, one of which is Limited. As for extra support against Mirror Force for example. Prime Material Dragon can easily deal with that and other problems. It can do so for BEWD as well. It also shuts down burn decks like Volcanic decks and stops them dead in their tracks. When did Prime Material Dragon become REBD-exclusive support? I wouldnt be stupid enough to pull off a 10 card + combo with out considering the alternatives. Trust me, Red Eyes Darkness Dragon owns Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon any day. Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is a different story. That card is broken and awesome. It hasnt been released in the TCG although I hope it gets released soon. How bout I post my Red Eyes deck.Also. Why has no one else posted other Dark Armed Dragon deck lists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 HOW CAN RED EYES POSSIBLY BE FASTER 2 TRIBUTES 1 HAS 2400 ATK THE OTHER 3000 DO THE F****** MATH AND IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU USE REDD THEN U PHAIL ok im done ^_^ Easy. Lots of abusable support. There's nothing even remotely abusable in REBD support. People say Prime Material Dragon is broken. Which has nothing to do with REBD. Try again. Red Eyes B Dragon is rather easy to summon. But it's not even close to worth it. Red Eyes Darkness Dragon is easier to summon than Blue Eyes Shining Dragon. Except that better REBD builds don't use REDD' date=' and better BEWD builds don't use BESD. Masked Dragon = summon Red Eyes B Chick. K. Red Eyes B Chick = summon Red Eyes B Dragon. So far' date=' we're at a 2-card combo that takes at least a turn to pull off. Red Eyes B Dragon = summon Red Eyes Darkness Dragon. That's a 3-card combo. There are 3-card combos that win games. Continuously revive and retribute Red Eyes and overpower your opponent with 3000+ Monsters. So you have more copies of REDD and extra revival cards in your hand? This combo is taking a lot of cards. Throw in Five Headed Dragon and Dimension Fusion and execute an OTK. Awesome' date=' we add Dragon's Mirror and Dimension Fusion. The combo is up to 9 cards, one of which is Limited. As for extra support against Mirror Force for example. Prime Material Dragon can easily deal with that and other problems. It can do so for BEWD as well. It also shuts down burn decks like Volcanic decks and stops them dead in their tracks. When did Prime Material Dragon become REBD-exclusive support? I wouldnt be stupid enough to pull off a 10 card + combo with out considering the alternatives. And if you considered the alternatives and still went with the 10-card combo' date=' consider better. Trust me, Red Eyes Darkness Dragon owns Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon any day. lolno Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is a different story. No' date=' both of the Metals own Darkness Dragon. The story is exactly the same. That card is broken It isn't. and awesome. It is. It hasnt been released in the TCG although I hope it gets released soon. Indeed' date=' it's awesome. How bout I post my Red Eyes deck. K. Also. Why has no one else posted other Dark Armed Dragon deck lists? A couple of reasons: 1) Almost nobody can afford them in real life, and using them online is very boring.2) All Dark Armed Dragon decklists are nearly identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon sucks. Face it. Its hard to summon. It needs more support to even remotely be good. It just looks good and thats about it. Its also a card you dont want to draw. Its useless if its drawn. Its a dead draw any time its drawn. Why would you put this card in a Chimeratech deck? There are plenty of other alternatives like a useful Card Trooper, a Cyber Phoenix, a Gadget. Come on, we can probably both agree Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon looks good but it isnt a good card for a deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon sucks. Face it. Its hard to summon. It needs more support to even remotely be good. It just looks good and thats about it. Its also a card you dont want to draw. Its useless if its drawn. Its a dead draw any time its drawn. Why would you put this card in a Chimeratech deck? There are plenty of other alternatives like a useful Card Trooper' date=' a Cyber Phoenix, a Gadget. Come on, we can probably both agree Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon looks good but it isnt a good card for a deck.[/quote'] Mill it with Reasoning/Monster Gate loop.Drop it for Trade-In/Allure. Those 2 reasons alone make REBMD a worthy addition to a Chimeratech Turbo deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon sucks. It doesn't. Face it. Except it doesn't suck' date=' so no. Its hard to summon. Good players don't SUMMON it. It needs more support to even remotely be good. Obviously' date=' it needs to be in the right deck. It just looks good At least you've noticed its dashing handsomeness. and thats about it. Except it also has its own epic deck. Its also a card you dont want to draw. Its useless if its drawn. Its a dead draw any time its drawn. Allure of Darkness' date=' Trade-In, Power Bond, Card Destruction, Magical Stone Excavation. Why would you put this card in a Chimeratech deck? Because Chimeratech is too slow and inconsistent without this card. There are plenty of other alternatives like a useful Card Trooper' date=' a Cyber Phoenix, a Gadget.[/quote'] Card Trooper and Cyber Phoenix should be maxed along with REBMD; Gadgets are too slow for Chimeratech. Come on' date=' we can probably both agree Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon looks good.[/quote'] Indeed, we can. It isnt a good card. Except it is. Chimeratech with REBMD beats a regular Red-Eyes deck every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 So it has its own strategy now. Chimeratech without REBMD can beat a Red Eyes deck any time. Once I get better cards for my Cyber Deck Ill post it. It doesnt just rely on Chimeratech but it can summon Chimeratech easily with decent ATK and DEF. Decent meaning 4000+ with ease. Any Machine deck should run Chimeratech even if the strategy isnt about summoning Chimeratech and crushing your opponent with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 So it has its own strategy now. Yes' date=' and it's an awesome strategy. Chimeratech without REBMD can beat a Red Eyes deck any time. And Chimeratech with REBMD > Chimeratech without REBMD. What happened to REBMD being inferior to REDD? Once I get better cards for my Cyber Deck Ill post it. Generic Cyber decks lose to REBMD-Chimeratech. It doesnt just rely on Chimeratech but it can summon Chimeratech easily with decent ATK and DEF. By "easily"' date=' you mean "if I'm lucky enough to draw Overload Fusion", right? Decent meaning 4000+ with ease. Try 15000 with ease. And my version of ease is easier than your version, since I can draw Overload Fusion more consistently than a non-dedicated deck. Any Machine deck should run Chimeratech even if the strategy isnt about summoning Chimeratech and crushing your opponent with it. That depends on the build, but Chimeratech is useful more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 wow that was a lol ^_^ told you bewd decks are better sure they are not amazing, but logically 3000>2400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Goldshine, go read Crab Helmet's Chimillatech OTK decklist. Search for it on this forum, it should be around somewhere. Can you say that either your REDD deck or your Cyber deck can consistently win on the 4th turn or sooner? That's how fast Crab's deck is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Cyber decks are explosive with the right cards. Overload Fusion is limited and it sometimes screws me over. Power Bond is a good alternative although I run both. I don't just rely on Chimeratech. Ease means I can summon Chimeratech Overdragon from nearly no where. Cyber Dragon and 2 or 3 Machines with Power Bond. Cyber Twin Dragon is also run because I can create a 5000+ Monster with 3 cards and boost it to 10000+ with Limiter Removal and protect it with a Union just in case. It is designed to beat opponents quickly and explosively. It can overpower some of the most powerful decks. Cyber swarmage is also good for guaranteed finishes. De-Fusion during the battlephase after Cyber Twin has done its work. It isnt that hard to pull off. Different combinations of combinations are essentially the key. I need to update my Cyber deck to increase its efficiency. Power draw is probably the only way to I can think of to guarantee drawing Overload Fusion consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Using Crab's decklist is another way to do it. Your deck is explosive you say, but does it win on the 4th turn or sooner every game you play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Cyber Dragon decks suck. True fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 It does. On rare occasions it doesn't though. If it cant win in 4 turns it can still survive a long time. I don't play online but I still have an impressive collection of cards.By the way. I still only have 1 DAD list to work with. This hasn't really been helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 It does. On rare occasions it doesn't though. If it cant win in 4 turns it can still survive a long time. I don't play online but I still have an impressive collection of cards.By the way. I still only have 1 DAD list to work with. This hasn't really been helpful. Google is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 It does. On rare occasions it doesn't though. If it cant win in 4 turns it can still survive a long time. I don't play online but I still have an impressive collection of cards.By the way. I still only have 1 DAD list to work with. This hasn't really been helpful. Google is your friend. Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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