Blake Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 This card funking sucks. I constantly see people either defending or running it, and it boggles my mind. We're not playing a game where NSable beaters (and nothing more) are particularly amazing. Back when Djinn was around, Monkeyboard (the only half decent means to access and play this under Djinn) was not, and it's only 2600 anyways. At that point, your scales can pump more of your sheet up. The mini-trunade isn't good, at all. It activates too late to be of use, only serving to reenable Tenki or Monkeyboard (yes, some moron did this). I mean, I guess it removes floodgates... but still too late 9/10. It's level 6, which means you can only PS it with Skullcrobat, and it's not a pendulum so it's 1-shot. It's just overkill as sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 When you say some "moron did this", do you mean he thought it Trunaded his cards as well, or his Elephammer re-enabled his opponent's Monkeyboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 When you say some "moron did this", do you mean he thought it Trunaded his cards as well, or his Elephammer re-enabled his opponent's Monkeyboard?he re-enabled my monkeyboard when it was my only s/t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techi☺ Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Totally not defending it in anyway, I have no clue what that archtype is like. However, since it doesnt seem to really cost anything, the summon being free in the right conditions, the attack being nicer than the six sams card with the same summon-thingy, I guess you can excuse the poor effect timing. It isnt perfect, and in all honesty, nothing about this card makes me want to look into the rest of its little friends. However, the card could definitely be worse. I do not see a reason to say this card is so bad or something. Edit: The six sams monster I was thinking of was a SS free. So... nvm, Neglect my previous message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Oh, just wow. Honestly, with P-Pals' current level of support I do agree with ya. You have a lot of better things to NS now, so this guy can more or less join the unused pile like Spike Eagle. Granted, I can't fully ascertain his place had he been SS instead of NS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Totally not defending it in anyway, I have no clue what that archtype is like. However, since it doesnt seem to really cost anything, the summon being free in the right conditions, the attack being nicer than the six sams card with the same summon-thingy, I guess you can excuse the poor effect timing. It isnt perfect, and in all honesty, nothing about this card makes me want to look into the rest of its little friends. However, the card could definitely be worse. I do not see a reason to say this card is so bad or something.it's garbage The deck (Pure Performapal, nothing else would ever remotely have this as an option) has 5-6 GOOD cards (potentially a 7th soon), some decent cards, and a lot of tech options. Not to mention cards outside the archetype that you use to further the deck. You have at least 5 copies of cards that want to be NS'd, and you possess the search power to consistently do so turn after turn. You have 2-3 more copies that are fine to NS, and have a decent chance of being NS'd early on to get going. You have multiple Pendulum Scales that give you the ability to +600 a single monster/+300xPpal cards you control a single monster/+300 all of your Ppals. All three of which do similar as monsters. One of those has a good level, other 2 have decent levels. And another that +1000s every other Ppal when you Pendulum Summon until end. 2600 isn't incredibly difficult to achieve. You have no room for a tech like this when the deck has a sizable chunk of cards you want to run over it. You could run Whip Snake, Turn Toad, Big Bite Turtle, and more as techs. And while not all techs have the best levels, they're pendulums to make up for it. 2600 on an unwieldy level that wastes a precious normal summon in a deck that can still hit 2600 with relative ease is not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techi☺ Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I made a sneaky edit while you wrote that, sorry. Yeah, I had no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Like, why would you be NSing anything other than Skullcrobat anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateIRS Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Like, why would you be NSing anything other than Skullcrobat anyways? The donkeys are ass literally, not figuratively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Like, why would you be NSing anything other than Skullcrobat anyways?tbh, in pure,your second to fourth turn (if the game lasts that long) are usually Friendonkey NS, because it gets you more value in attempting to game the opponent. Joker's only better t1 or if you really need Noble Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I run this at 1 because i hate backrow THAT much, yes i'm serious btw. The card isn't all good for all the reasons above, but i'm honestly keeping it until heavy (or HPD) comes back because like i said I despise backrow heavy decks that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 It did completely dominate the CROS sneak peek, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I run this at 1 because i hate backrow THAT much, yes i'm serious btw. The card isn't all good for all the reasons above, but i'm honestly keeping it until heavy (or HPD) comes back because like i said I despise backrow heavy decks that much.well archfiend eccentrick, mst, and odd-eyes gravity exist and are all infinitely better choices the former aren't great against mass backrow, but the latter wins against Majespecter/Yosen if you choose to run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 As a standalone card....it's Ok. But it's not standalone. It's part of P-Pals. So by sheer overshadowing comparison it is just blown out of any trace of being remotely useful. It's far too slow and costly to make any difference in one of the fastest and most consistent decks we've seen in a LONG time, except maybe for that late game 2600 RKO out of nowhere, should any game somehow last that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 As a standalone card....it's Ok. But it's not standalone. It's part of P-Pals. So by sheer overshadowing comparison it is just blown out of any trace of being remotely useful. It's far too slow and costly to make any difference in one of the fastest and most consistent decks we've seen in a LONG time, except maybe for that late game 2600 RKO out of nowhere, should any game somehow last that longEven standalone it's trash. There is nearly no deck nowadays that doesn't use up its normal summon in a very meaningful way. This isn't any better than Manju in Nekroz, Deneb/Altair in Stellars etc. Yeah, it's "ok", but in the end it's just toilet paper because it wouldn't see play even if it was somehow generic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 As a standalone card....it's Ok. But it's not standalone. It's part of P-Pals. So by sheer overshadowing comparison it is just blown out of any trace of being remotely useful. It's far too slow and costly to make any difference in one of the fastest and most consistent decks we've seen in a LONG time, except maybe for that late game 2600 RKO out of nowhere, should any game somehow last that longFun fact it was sheet on release in ppal because Level 4 beatdown was infinitely better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Someone should stitch together a thousand copies of this card, weaken the material used on it and use it as toilet paper. Except you shouldn't because this card is fecal matter. It's effect is terrible and Performapals don't really need this card. The only positive thing about it is that it is a 2600 Normal Summonable beater in PPals, but that's as positive as a bad HIV test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Even standalone it's trash. There is nearly no deck nowadays that doesn't use up its normal summon in a very meaningful way. This isn't any better than Manju in Nekroz, Deneb/Altair in Stellars etc. Yeah, it's "ok", but in the end it's just toilet paper because it wouldn't see play even if it was somehow generic. Did you just compare this card to Manju, Deneb, and Altair, and say they are as trash as this card is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Did you just compare this card to Manju, Deneb, and Altair, and say they are as trash as this card is?It wasn't phrased the best, but no need to nitpick what can be clearly inferred. It was clear that he was saying this wasn't near the quality of cards such as those, and given English isn't his first language, it could have come out a lot worse. To continue his point, this deck has 3 other monsters it would rather NS in the vein of the above cards, not to mention techs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 It wasn't phrased the best, but no need to nitpick what can be clearly inferred. It was clear that he was saying this wasn't near the quality of cards such as those, and given English isn't his first language, it could have come out a lot worse. To continue his point, this deck has 3 other monsters it would rather NS in the vein of the above cards, not to mention techs.Pretty much. Yeah, I wasn't clear enough, but I wasn't comparing this DIRECTLY to likes of Manju and Altair. I was simply using them as an example that a Normal Summon is a tool powerful enough these days that even if this was a generic card, I can't think of a single deck that would run it, because they all already have their own (much better) Normal Summon plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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