Shenanigans

[Bubbletrouble]

My first card being posted to advance section, so I welcome all CnC and any tips to improve my cards for the future.

 

 

Old Lore: While this card is face-up on the field, any card that has an effect that activates from the graveyard, cannot be sent to the graveyard and must be banished instead. Any card that has an effect that activates while it is Banished, cannot be Banished and must be sent to the graveyard. If a card has an effect that activates from either the graveyard, or while banished: That card is sent face-up to the bottom of the Deck. When this card is destroyed, all monsters on the field are destroyed and each player loses 400 LP for each of their own monsters destroyed by this effect.

 

OCG fix New Lore: While this card is face-up on the field, any card that has an effect that activates from the Graveyard, cannot be sent to the Graveyard and must be banished instead. Any card that has an effect that activates while it is banished, cannot be banished and must be sent to the Graveyard instead. If a card has an effect that activates from the graveyard and and an effect that activates while banished: That card is sent face-up to the bottom of the Deck. When a card is sent to the bottom of your opponents Deck by this cards effect: this card is sent to the graveyard. When this card is destroyed: target all monsters on the field; destroy them. Each player loses 400 LP for each of their monsters destroyed by this effect.

 

Queries:

-This card is a hard counter for certain types of Decks.

technically yes, however:

1. This card has no self protection.

2. It does not prevent those cards from being returned later on and used then.

3. It affects your own monsters too so you would have to think twice about its usage.

 

Hope you like it.

[Arimetal]

What if they have effects by both being banished AND sent to grave?

[Bubbletrouble]

Actually I just noticed something with my OCG it's supposed to mean effects that activate from the graveyard or while banished, not when they are sent there, I'll have to think on how to word it properly

 

What if they have effects by both being banished AND sent to grave?

You raise a good point.

hmm...how about if I add *If a card has effects that activate from both the graveyard and while banished: They are instead sent face-up to the bottom of their owners Deck.*

[Bubbletrouble]

Bump.

[Bubbletrouble]

Bump.

[Bubbletrouble]

Bump.

 

 

 

No CnC?? I am curious to know what people think of my card:

-Like the card?

-Like the idea but could be worked better?

-Not a good idea for a card?

Just curious to know peoples opinions on this.

[Arimetal]

Bump.

 

 

 

No CnC?? I am curious to know what people think of my card:

-Like the card?

-Like the idea but could be worked better?

-Not a good idea for a card?

Just curious to know peoples opinions on this.

It's a problem this site faces. CC is a bit dead if you don't compel people. (I got no CnC on my Gyros til I changed the thread name to Dragon Ruler Esque Synchro Engine, for example)

 

Let me see if I can give better CnC

 

This is a really good floodgate. Idk if its too good though. You shut down A LOT of decks automatically by activating this. But there are also decks that can play it with ease. That is scary. I suggest adding something to the like of Vanity's Emptiness. A way for it to kill itself so it doesn't get out of hand. Also, why face-up to the bottom?

[Dova]

I scroll over so many cards and I most of them I'm like "I like it" or "I don't like it" but don't feel that warrants a review, because I don't have much else to say. Then I remember that that's what lots of people do, and me just doing that is a bad thing. Time to force my brain to come up with something.

 

I like it. Glad we've established that. As for this being used....I see this in every side which does not involve going to Grave/Banish, probably even mained. You say no protection, but there is a form of protection. As long as your opponent has field advantage, he won't want to destroy it. Not much, but I feel that even that tips it over. I mean, LIP and SIP don't even banish, and they have no protection WHATSOEVER. But, as I've said, I like the card in general.

 

I really hope other people with more to say comment on this.

[Arimetal]

Idk how I missed that dark hole effect, why is that a thing.

[Kanashimi]

Bump.

 

 

 

No CnC?? I am curious to know what people think of my card:

-Like the card?

-Like the idea but could be worked better?

-Not a good idea for a card?

Just curious to know peoples opinions on this.

You're not alone, most of the things i post also got ignored (here and even DNF too at CaC sections)

Also like XOXO said^ it's *dead* (i was hoping people are more "responsive" and help each other, regardless we know each other OR not.)

 

Text fixes:

While this card is face-up on the field, any card that has an effect that activates from the Graveyard, cannot be sent to the Graveyard and must be banished instead. Any card that has an effect that activates while it is banished, cannot be banished and must be sent to the Graveyard. If a card has an effect that activates from either the Graveyard, or while banished: That card is sent placed face-up to the bottom of the Deck. When this card is destroyed, all monsters on the field are destroyed and each player loses 400 LP for each of their own monsters destroyed by this effect.

 

So yes, trully "anti-meta" card. (kills most of the meta decks wow)

 

Everything is fine until " . . . placed face-up to the bottom of the Deck." Why face-up? why not placed in normal way?

[Bubbletrouble]

You're not alone, most of the things i post also got ignored (here and even DNF too at CaC sections)

Also like XOXO said^ it's *dead* (i was hoping people are more "responsive" and help each other, regardless we know each other OR not.)

 

Text fixes:

While this card is face-up on the field, any card that has an effect that activates from the Graveyard, cannot be sent to the Graveyard and must be banished instead. Any card that has an effect that activates while it is banished, cannot be banished and must be sent to the Graveyard. If a card has an effect that activates from either the Graveyard, or while banished: That card is sent placed face-up to the bottom of the Deck. When this card is destroyed, all monsters on the field are destroyed and each player loses 400 LP for each of their own monsters destroyed by this effect.

 

So yes, trully "anti-meta" card. (kills most of the meta decks wow)

 

Everything is fine until " . . . placed face-up to the bottom of the Deck." Why face-up? why not placed in normal way?

hmmm not entirely sure why face-up I think it was because I wanted the cards to be visable similar to how the cards in the graveyard or banished are, so that you know when your opponent draws it (if they cycle through their deck that quick anyway), I can change it to normal face-down if that's better

 

Idk how I missed that dark hole effect, why is that a thing.

The darkhole effect was just something I put in there for when the card is destroyed (I didn't want to put in returns all monster back to where they were sent originally or to the deck) I may change it to target all monsters on the field, then destroy targets, so that cards with "cannot be targeted" aren't affected by the darkhole effect. (that should hopefully get rid of the protection by darkhole if they have a good field)

 

It can also be stopped by anything that destroys or removes trap cards in general (which there should be in every deck realistically)

It's a shame this site is slowly dying in terms of CnC, I have learnt heaps from reading other peoples cards and the reviews and comments on them

[Arimetal]

Actually, from what I understand, it's being revived. I was told about a year ago, it was almost impossible to get CnC. Now, it's more of luck if someone is interested.

 

Maybe within a years time, this section will be active more. (Look at all the new members going in here, guns blazing)

[Bubbletrouble]

fingers crossed XOXO

 

 

It's a problem this site faces. CC is a bit dead if you don't compel people. (I got no CnC on my Gyros til I changed the thread name to Dragon Ruler Esque Synchro Engine, for example)

Let me see if I can give better CnC

This is a really good floodgate. Idk if its too good though. You shut down A LOT of decks automatically by activating this. But there are also decks that can play it with ease. That is scary. I suggest adding something to the like of Vanity's Emptiness. A way for it to kill itself so it doesn't get out of hand. Also, why face-up to the bottom?

 

I might make it so that if it returns a monster face-up to the deck it is sent to the graveyard (not destroyed) and its darkhole effect is only triggered when it is destroyed, hopefully that makes it not quite game killing for these decks as they can remove it from the field without destroying it to by-pass the dark hole effect, but without nerfing it too much so that its not that usable.

 

Updated: it now removes itself from the field automatically if it sends a monster back to the deck. and it only activates the dark hole effect if it destroyed.

[Dova]

I like the updated effect but I see you MST'ing it when you have bad field advantage. Perhaps opponent's card effect only?
 
Here's a suggestion for the OCG (plz not kill smart ocg peeps i tried):

While this card is face-up on the field, any card that has an effect that activates from the Graveyard cannot be sent to the Graveyard and must be banished instead. Any card that has an effect that activates while it is banished cannot be banished and must be sent to the Graveyard instead. If a card has an effect that activates from either the Graveyard and an effect that activates (tbh I dont think this is bit I added is entirely necessary, I just felt it cleared up a bit of confusion) while banished: That card is sent face-up to the bottom of the Deck. When a card is sent to the bottom of your opponents Deck by this cards effect: This card is removed from the field (not destroyed) and sent to the Graveyard (Doesn't destroy anyway). When this card is destroyed by an opponent's card effect: Target all monsters on the field and ; Destroy them. Each player loses 400 LP for each of their monsters destroyed by this effect.

[Bubbletrouble]

I like the updated effect but I see you MST'ing it when you have bad field advantage. Perhaps opponent's card effect only?

 

Here's a suggestion for the OCG (plz not kill smart ocg peeps i tried):

 

While this card is face-up on the field, any card that has an effect that activates from the Graveyard cannot be sent to the Graveyard and must be banished instead. Any card that has an effect that activates while it is banished cannot be banished and must be sent to the Graveyard instead. If a card has an effect that activates from either the Graveyard and an effect that activates (tbh I dont think this is bit I added is entirely necessary, I just felt it cleared up a bit of confusion) while banished: That card is sent face-up to the bottom of the Deck. When a card is sent to the bottom of your opponents Deck by this cards effect: This card is removed from the field (not destroyed) and sent to the Graveyard (Doesn't destroy anyway). When this card is destroyed by an opponent's card effect: Target all monsters on the field and ; Destroy them. Each player loses 400 LP for each of their monsters destroyed by this effect.

 

Thanks for the OCG fix.

I wasn't entirely sure how to word the both effects to the Deck, part of the card. I'll add it in even if it isn't needed, less confusion created by this card's wording the better :)

If sent to the graveyard doesn't destroy it then I can take that part out I just wasn't sure if that wording would still trigger it if something destroys and then sends to the graveyard.

haha, the "instead" was an oversight on my part, thanks

 

I'll fix these up now

 

MST'ing?? sorry still not 100% on the terms haha

[Arimetal]

Thanks for the OCG fix.

I wasn't entirely sure how to word the both effects to the Deck, part of the card. I'll add it in even if it isn't needed, less confusion created by this card's wording the better :)

If sent to the graveyard doesn't destroy it then I can take that part out I just wasn't sure if that wording would still trigger it if something destroys and then sends to the graveyard.

haha, the "instead" was an oversight on my part, thanks

 

I'll fix these up now

 

MST'ing?? sorry still not 100% on the terms haha

MST=Mystical Space Typhoon

 

Majority of terms we used are not exclusive to the site. In other words you can google them if you aren't sure.

[Dova]

The idea was you can pull of the Dark Hole effect yourself by blowing it up with Mystical Space Typhoon (MST) or better yet, double Cyclone.

[Bubbletrouble]

MST=Mystical Space Typhoon

 

Majority of terms we used are not exclusive to the site. In other words you can google them if you aren't sure.

sweet thanks for the clarification.

 

I am looking into the final dark hole effect, but I think I'll leave it as it is, triggered by any player destroying it. I just feel as though if I make it by opponent only then it opens me up to being MST if I have a good field and my opponent doesn't (he gets a free trap kill and monster wipe) at least with either player able to activate it neither player has a real advantage of holding a field to ransom while this card is active.

 

Update: fixed up the ocg: thanks to Dova for the help with that.

and thanks to everyone who has helped me to fix the card's effects