Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Now you're just deliberately misconstruing me, Exchange and Temple are inarguably not remotely good in their new form, it's not about relative strength they are both objectively bad cards now. There's no reason to go completely changing effects to clear up banlist "space" because that's a completely arbitrary statement, there is no minimum or maximum size for the banlist and there's nothing inherently wrong with having it get larger as more and more cards come to exist in the game, it's the logical progression.Oh I'm sorry, guess it's good to be like TCG and ban another 4 cards every format? Errata are them fixing their mistakes. Anyway, temple has its uses in Tellars for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarch King Posted December 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 If Konami's plan is to clear the banlist space, then they could things like Adult Rulers back to 1 and ban Dark Matter. So basically the Forbidden cards will be 3 cards less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Oh I'm sorry, guess it's good to be like TCG and ban another 4 cards every format? Errata are them fixing their mistakes. Anyway, temple has its uses in Tellars for sure Not uses sufficient for it to be used in the deck. It doesn't hurt for the banlist to extend because over time those cards will come off generally as their uses become less relevant or their decks are powercreeped or, again, less relevant. The likes of Painful Choice and Pot of Greed are some of the strongest cards ever made because they can be thrown in any deck with no downside to their inclusion, and so keeping them banned in their current forms for huge lengths of time is not harming anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 It's annoying to be told what you cannot do. Which is what the Banlist is. Decreasing that isn't a problem. Which is why OCG's ban conservative mentality is healthier than TCG's hammer contest. Anyway, stein I already told you what needs doing, after this its up to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 So because the banlist prohibits the use of certain cards and stops you doing things with them (which I mean, what the hell, what else was it going to ever do), efforts should be made to get good cards off it by making them bad? I'm either misinterpreting what you're saying there or what you're saying is a bit ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarch King Posted December 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 I understand that changing the "send the rest cards to the Grave" for "shuffle them" is completely different. What if i made it "Excavate the top 3 cards of your Deck, then your opponent selects and adds 1 of them to your hand, also, after that, send the remaining cards to the Graveyard. You can only activate 1 "Painful Choice" per turn." So basically the excavated cards are decreased from 5 to 3 but the effect is closer to the real one which is sending rest to the Graveyard. I really don't know what is better. The current one with the shuffle or the other suggested? Also i don't want to put a "nonSS" restriction on this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 How about you just sit tight and hold up for Konami to do the errata. Cause I assure you people like Enguin are always gonna come in and cry about how erratas are bad. And if you don't make it perfect you'll get lynched for making it too strong or too weak. It's just not worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 And I assure you people like Winter are always going to come in and cry about how the TCG banlist is too long and errata all the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarch King Posted December 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 And if you don't make it perfect you'll get lynched for making it too strong or too weak.this is incredibly true lol. There will be always complainers from both sides xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateIRS Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 erratas The word "errata" is itself the plural of the word "erratum". It's one thing to use the plural as a singular, but adding another plural on top of that is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 The word "errata" is itself the plural of the word "erratum". It's one thing to use the plural as a singular, but adding another plural on top of that is just ridiculous.Bite me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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