Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[Miror B]

I don't really get what you mean by doesn't exclude battle? What doesn't exclude battle? I also don't get what you mean by the last statement, at the same time? I never asked about timing, I asked if it would activate when it gets flipped by any of the things I mentioned.

I mean it doesn't say something like Poison Draw Frog's "Unless this card was attacked while face down" or something.

It's a Pseudo Flip effect. It activates just like a Flip Effect and other Pseudo Flip Effects. If it gets flipped face up it activates, no ifs, ands or buts.

[Zazubat]

I still think I'm confused. So it doesn't have the effect of not being destroyed because it doens't say that? I thought effects would still happen when you it becomes face-up even if it's still in the battle step. I don't get it :(

[Miror B]

I still think I'm confused. So it doesn't have the effect of not being destroyed because it doens't say that? I thought effects would still happen when you it becomes face-up even if it's still in the battle step. I don't get it :(

No I said it gets its effect because it doesn't exclude being attacked while facedown...

Screw it easy way. It will not be destroyed when attacked so long as you control a token.

[Zazubat]

No I said it gets its effect because it doesn't exclude being attacked while facedown...

Screw it easy way. It will not be destroyed when attacked so long as you control a token.

now you're just f'ing with my brain, instead of trying to understand why, I'll just take your word that it will activate, even though I just thought you said that it doesn't because it doesn't say that it does like Tree Frog Poison Draw Frog then what ever, or am I misunderstanding what you said. GOD DAMN ME!

[Miror B]

now you're just f'ing with my brain, instead of trying to understand why, I'll just take your word that it will activate, even though I just thought you said that it doesn't because it doesn't say that it does like Tree Frog, or am I misunderstanding what you said. GOD DAMN ME!

Again, I did not say it doesn't protect itself. I said it doesn't exclude being attacked face down.

It's face up when the destruction would happen. It's continuous effect will apply.

 

And it's POISON DRAW FROG. Look at it for a reference and you may be able to understand it :/

[Zazubat]

Again, I did not say it doesn't protect itself. I said it doesn't exclude being attacked face down.

It's face up when the destruction would happen. It's continuous effect will apply.

 

And it's POISON DRAW FROG. Look at it for a reference and you may be able to understand it :/

What ever, I don't freaking care anymore, I just don't get what you mean by not excluding being attacked face-down.

 

EDIT: Let me try to figure out what you meant. You mean that because it doesn't state that it only activates when it's attacked, effect etc. it can activate when ever it gets flipped up regardless of what it is that does it, so it's attack will work.

[darkwolf777]

That's for negating other cards. Torrential and bottomless do not negate. So long as the chain is in response to the summon, cards like Bottomless and Torrential can still be used.

 

Whether it negates is irrelevant. That are Spell Speed 2 effects which can negate cards.

 

Such as: Summon -> CL1: Bottomless Trap Hole -> CL2: Light and Darkness Dragon -> CL3: Torrential Tribute

 

also, I want to know, can you use Stardust Radiance Dragon's effect in response to a card being activated?

 

The card states that its an effect that can be used during either player's turn. That makes it a Quick Effect and is Spell Speed 2. Yes you can chain it to other Spell Speed 1 or 2 effects.

 

I got an other question, someone answered this on DN, but that'd DN, so I want a confirm here, if I have a face-down Black Falcon, and I control a Token, will it be destroyed by battle after it flips face-up? Also, would card effects work on it while face-down (this I'm pretty sure is gonna be a big fat NO, but want to be sure anyways). Oh, and I always forget, flipping face-up means by battle by a card effect and by yourself during your Main Phase right? With Ham-Strato, I'm not sure when it's effect will activate when it gets flipped.

 

"This card cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effects while you control a Token." is a Continuous Effect. It is applied whenever Black-Falcon is face-up. If a face-down Black-Falcon is attacked, it will be face-up during the Damage Step and if you control a token, it will NOT be destroyed by battle.

 

A face-down monster has no effects so it can be destroyed by card effects if Black-Falcon is face-down.

 

"Flipped face-up" will be for any reason that would cause the card to go from face-down to face-up, including attacks, card effects, or by you doing it manually.

 

 

 

Kevin, your initial answer to the question of "Will Black-Falcon be destroyed by battle" was "Yes" and that's why it was confusing.

[Zazubat]

Not to drag down your explanations Kevin, but Darkwolf gave a much clearer answer to my questions, also thanks for answering the one about Stardust, I always have no idea if effects like that work in response to anything, but since I now know that it's Spell Speed 2, it makes more sense.

[CommanderVolt]

So just gotta make sure. If you Limiter Removal on your Beastcrafts and have a token out. Do they survive the limiter removal effect? (The beastcraft not the tokens)

[darkwolf777]

So just gotta make sure. If you Limiter Removal on your Beastcrafts and have a token out. Do they survive the limiter removal effect? (The beastcraft not the tokens)

 

If the monsters are immune to destruction or Spell Effects, they wont be destroyed by Limiter Removal. Beastcrafts would not be destroyed if there's a token out.

[Miror B]

Whether it negates is irrelevant. That are Spell Speed 2 effects which can negate cards.

I was talking about the whole has to respond directly to the summon or whatever part.

[newhat]

Will Raptor's Mandatory Trigger Effect work with Ray's on-Battle-Damage effect?

[evilfusion]

Yes, I'm pretty sure it'd work even if it was an optional Trigger Effect.

 

Considering cards like Stratos still activate if Summoned during Damage Step, a mandatory Trigger Effect would definitely work.

[darkwolf777]

Mandatory effects are Mandatory. They'll activate whenever they're triggered and that includes during the Damage Step.

[newhat]

If Il Blud leaves the field before his effect to revive a Zombie resolves, what happens to it?

[darkwolf777]

If Il Blud leaves the field before his effect to revive a Zombie resolves, what happens to it?

 

The zombie is Special Summoned. That's it.

[Mysty]

So if I have an already face-up Dark Smog and my opponent activates Monster reborn, can I use Dark Smog's effect in response?

[darkwolf777]

So if I have an already face-up Dark Smog and my opponent activates Monster reborn, can I use Dark Smog's effect in response?

 

Trap Cards are Spell Speed 2. You can chain Dark Smog to Monster Reborn to banish a monster in their Graveyard that they targeted with Monster Reborn.

[Expelsword]

If Call of the Haunted was activated but flipped by something like http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Phantom_Destruction before it resolved, what happens?

[darkwolf777]

If Call of the Haunted was activated but flipped by something like http://yugioh.wikia....tom_Destruction before it resolved, what happens?

 

Edit: Nothing. As pointed out later, Continuous Cards have no effect if they are not face-up on the field during resolution.

[Zazubat]

If I target a monster in my opponent's hand, and it gets removed from the hand, can I use my effect that triggers because it was a correct target still? I made a card to show what I mean: When this card is Normal Summoned: Target 1 random card in your opponents hand and look at it, then if its a Monster Card; add 1 Reptile-Type monster with a Level equal to or lower Level than the targeted card from your deck to your hand.

[evilfusion]

If I target a monster in my opponent's hand, and it gets removed from the hand, can I use my effect that triggers because it was a correct target still? I made a card to show what I mean: When this card is Normal Summoned: Target 1 random card in your opponents hand and look at it, then if its a Monster Card; add 1 Reptile-Type monster with a Level equal to or lower Level than the targeted card from your deck to your hand.

 

The hand cannot be targeted.

 

And you can't resolve an effect as a cost (looking at an opponent's card would only be a resolving effect, never a cost).

[Zazubat]

The hand cannot be targeted.

 

And you can't resolve an effect as a cost (looking at an opponent's card would only be a resolving effect, never a cost).

I don't really get it, how can cards use their effects that makes that card do something then?

[darkwolf777]

I don't really get it, how can cards use their effects that makes that card do something then?

 

As evilfusion said, you cannot target a card in the hand; it cannot be done in Yugioh. The only way to make a card like this is to have the "Select a card in the opponent's hand and look at it" part occur during resolution. Change the word "Target" to "Select" and remove the semicolon should fix your effect.

 

In the end, changing it to occur during resolution makes your question moot.

[-Berserker-]

Call of the Haunted would still Special Summon the monster. Since Call of the Haunted is face-down it wouldn't be targeting the Summoned monster and therefore the monster would not be bound by it.

I had in my mind Continuous traps only worked if face-up when resolving. I never summon Helios if they typhoon my Macrocosmos.