darkwolf777 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 What happens if Big-Tusked Mammoth attacks a Decoy Dragon (or any other circumstance that would change the attack target via a Special Summon, e.g. Call of the haunted?) I'm not sure what you're getting at, but in regards to the "Big-Tusked Mammoth" vs "Decoy Dragon", nothing would be different if it were any other monster. Big-Tusked Mammoth says the "monster can't attack.", meaning the player cannot declare an attack using it, and any already declared attacks with that monster would be stopped. It doesn't say the monster can't battle or be attacked, so your Mammoth will attack Decoy Dragon, Decoy Dragon will summon a Dragon, and then Mammoth will attack the newly summoned Dragon as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Oh, right *facedesk* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 If Tender of the Laval Volcano is removed from the Graveyard before its effect resolves, does it still get to mill a Laval or not? Pretty sure it doesn't, but I wanna be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 If Tender of the Laval Volcano is removed from the Graveyard before its effect resolves, does it still get to mill a Laval or not? Pretty sure it doesn't, but I wanna be sure. Yes, it does. Being sent to the Graveyard is the Trigger. It doesn't still have to be in the Graveyard to resolve, just to activate. It's the same with Sangan and Dandylion. But I think there still has to be another Laval in the Grave to successfully resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Can I activate the effect of The Gates of Dark World if Imperial Iron Wall is on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Can I activate the effect of The Gates of Dark World if Imperial Iron Wall is on the field? No, because you can't remove cards from play with Imperial Iron Wall. How do you plan to pay the cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 If Tender of the Laval Volcano is sent by something like Card Destruction or Charge of the Light Brigade, does it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Charge: No. Mill is a cost.Card Destruction: Yes. Simultaneous actions and what what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 In both cases, Tender misses the timing. Charge is because milling is a cost, so the last thing to resolve will be adding a Lightsworn. Card Destruction is because drawing is the last thing to occur, NOT discarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 What if a monster that isn't DARK-attribute battles Catastor but the other monster has Heart of Clear Water equipped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Normal battle calculation happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 But Catastor's effect says without damage calculation, so either way, no one loses LP right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 What if a monster that isn't DARK-attribute battles Catastor but the other monster has Heart of Clear Water equipped? Heart of Clear Water only protects from destruction effects that target. Catastor does not target. It will kill the monster by its effect. If for any reason Catastor's effect fails to destroy an appropriate monster by its effect (Wind-Up Zenmaines, Six Samurais, etc), Damage Calculation will continue as normal. But Catastor's effect says without damage calculation, so either way, no one loses LP right? No. If Catastor fails to kill a monster its effect was used on, Damage Calculation applies normally. Battle Damage will be inflicted if applicable and monsters can be destroyed by battle. Under normal circumstances, the opposing monster dies, so the battle ends at that point before comparing ATK/DEF values. That's what "before Damage Calculation/without applying Damage Calculation" means. Damage Calculation is the stage during the Damage Step where ATK/DEF are compared. If the battle doesn't end prematurely (due to Catastor's effect killing it before the attack "connects"), you DO enter Damage Calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 In both cases, Tender misses the timing. Charge is because milling is a cost, so the last thing to resolve will be adding a Lightsworn. Card Destruction is because drawing is the last thing to occur, NOT discarding.I assume it's this way with Synchro as well?Unlike Sangan who's mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Correct. It's an optional "When...you can" effect, so it will miss the timing when Tributed, Synched, or sent mid-chain, as a cost, or during non-simultaneous actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 If I use the effect of Brain Research Lab to gain an extra Psychic Normal Summon, destroy it for another Brain Research, can I get an extra Psychic Normal Summon from that one too on the same turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 If I use the effect of Brain Research Lab to gain an extra Psychic Normal Summon, destroy it for another Brain Research, can I get an extra Psychic Normal Summon from that one too on the same turn? You can only get the extra normal summon once per turn, even if you play a second Lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKaitoKid Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Wattsquirrel vs AOJ Nullfier. Both monsters negate each other's effects so do they both lose their effects? Or would it become a chain and thus one monster loses his ability first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Um...wow, that's...a weird situation. I think Turn Player's will resolve first (since it doesn't start a chain). They're both continuous effects with the same timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 In both cases, Tender misses the timing. Charge is because milling is a cost, so the last thing to resolve will be adding a Lightsworn. Card Destruction is because drawing is the last thing to occur, NOT discarding.Actually, I remember reading a blog post by Konami on simultanious occurences. For example, Quickdraw doesn't cause miss timing for anything. I'll see if I can find the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Gem-Knight Citrine vs XX-Saber Fulhelmknight GOGOGOGOGOGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Actually, I remember reading a blog post by Konami on simultanious occurences. For example, Quickdraw doesn't cause miss timing for anything. I'll see if I can find the post. Card Destruction was referenced a long time ago previously. You cannot draw AND discard (or vice versa) at the same time. Even if they resolve as a single action, they do not occur simultaneously. Quickdraw's sending of a monster is part of the Summon, similar to BLS banishing a Light and Dark. Gem-Knight Citrine vs XX-Saber Fulhelmknight GOGOGOGOGOGO Citrine is a Continuous effect, the same as Ancient Gears. It does not start a chain and therefore is always applied at the appropriate timing. Fulhelmknight cannot negate the attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Citrine is a Continuous effect, the same as Ancient Gears. It does not start a chain and therefore is always applied at the appropriate timing. Fulhelmknight cannot negate the attack....must...resist...urge...to...*hug* Thanks! I knew I was right the entire time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Wattsquirrel vs AOJ Nullfier. Both monsters negate each other's effects so do they both lose their effects? Or would it become a chain and thus one monster loses his ability first. These are not Continuous Effects. They are Trigger Effects and both start chains. Chain Link #1 goes to the turn player (the attacker) and Chain Link #2 goes to the opponent (who is being attacked). Therefore, the one being attacked is whose effect will be applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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