Synchronized Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Someone explain to me how Molten Conduction Field works if you play it first turn and send "Laval Magma Cannoneer" and "Laval Volcano Handmaiden". Do you get to use Handmaiden's effect because they both hit the Graveyard at the same time and thus there's a valid target for the effect to go off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Someone explain to me how Molten Conduction Field works if you play it first turn and send "Laval Magma Cannoneer" and "Laval Volcano Handmaiden". Do you get to use Handmaiden's effect because they both hit the Graveyard at the same time and thus there's a valid target for the effect to go off?Yep. Ten-four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyng's Old Account Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Is it possible to, once having Xyz Summoned Number 39: Utopia with any ol' Level 4s, to then overlay upon that a Number C39: Utopia Ray, and then upon that Utopia Ray, use a Rank Up Magic (Let's say Barian's Force) to bring out either Number C39: Utopia Ray V/ictory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Is it possible to, once having Xyz Summoned Number 39: Utopia with any ol' Level 4s, to then overlay upon that a Number C39: Utopia Ray, and then upon that Utopia Ray, use a Rank Up Magic (Let's say Barian's Force) to bring out either Number C39: Utopia Ray V/ictory?There's nothing here that is flawed. All you need is a Rank 4 monster with the same Type as the Rank 5 monster, nothing more. It could be any Rank 4 monster, even Number 39: Utopia Ray, just as long as it's a Warrior (or the Type of the Rank 5 monster you are wanting to Summon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Is it possible to, once having Xyz Summoned Number 39: Utopia with any ol' Level 4s, to then overlay upon that a Number C39: Utopia Ray, and then upon that Utopia Ray, use a Rank Up Magic (Let's say Barian's Force) to bring out either Number C39: Utopia Ray V/ictory? Yes, of course. If the Xyz (the topmost one) is a Rank 4 Warrior, Barian's Force can bring out V or Victory because V/Victory share a Type and are a Rank higher. And as long as Number 39 and/or C39 are Xyz Material, they also will have V/Victory's effects because you have a Utopia card as Material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Alright, tell me if my thinking is right here. So in the video you see below, at around 3:00 (or just click the annotation) you will see that I make a move using Rise and Compulse. I only did it this way to get rid of his Dragon, that was my intend, though because I was lucky, it didn't negate my Rise. So, my question is, did Devpro mess up? I have a theory, though it might be wrong. Anyway, my theory is that because Compulse sends it back to the hand, it can no longer decrease it's stats, and because of that, it can also no longer negate. But that might be wrong since I can't find a ruling that states something like that happening. Oh, and before you ask, yes I did play Constellar Omega, it was suppose to be Susano'o, but for some reason, I messed it up and that is Mother 3 music :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyZqJtvRH5w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Alright, tell me if my thinking is right here. So in the video you see below, at around 3:00 (or just click the annotation) you will see that I make a move using Rise and Compulse. I only did it this way to get rid of his Dragon, that was my intend, though because I was lucky, it didn't negate my Rise. So, my question is, did Devpro mess up? I have a theory, though it might be wrong. Anyway, my theory is that because Compulse sends it back to the hand, it can no longer decrease it's stats, and because of that, it can also no longer negate. But that might be wrong since I can't find a ruling that states something like that happening. Oh, and before you ask, yes I did play Constellar Omega, it was suppose to be Susano'o, but for some reason, I messed it up and that is Mother 3 music :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyZqJtvRH5wYou've got the right idea. LaDD can no longer reduce its attack, so it can't negate either. Same reason LaDD will no longer negate when it's at 400 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.codex Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Can you shuffle something into your Deck if you have no cards left in your Deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Can you shuffle something into your Deck if you have no cards left in your Deck?Of course.You just take your card, throw it around, make sure to hit about 5 people by throwing it at them then put it in your deck zone. Tl;dr: Ruing wise, yes. Realistically, no. Just place the card in your deck zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Here's a question I'm asking for future reference as I have a feeling this is going to happen alot once "They" come out. Okay, say my opp. ss an E-Dragon last turn and now it's my turn. If I take control of it say through tragg or Big Eye (both of which are important) will that E-Dragon return to their hand at the end of my turn? Now why is tragg & Big Eye important here? Because they take control of the monster perm. until by another effect or it leaves the field. Because of this would it not be correct to think that because owner ship has been changed and as the E-Dragon wasn't ss onto my field it would stay their even during my opp.s next end phase. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Here's a question I'm asking for future reference as I have a feeling this is going to happen alot once "They" come out. Okay, say my opp. ss an E-Dragon last turn and now it's my turn. If I take control of it say through tragg or Big Eye (both of which are important) will that E-Dragon return to their hand at the end of my turn? Now why is tragg & Big Eye important here? Because they take control of the monster perm. until by another effect or it leaves the field. Because of this would it not be correct to think that because owner ship has been changed and as the E-Dragon wasn't ss onto my field it would stay their even during my opp.s next end phase. Correct? Technically, ownership can't change during a duel. The "owner" of a card is who had it in their Deck or Extra Deck when the Duel began. However, based on the TCG wording of Blaster, it seems like it would indeed activate on the opponent's turn if you took permanent control of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 If a Semi-Nomi isflipped facedown and later sent to the graveyard, can I Special Summo it from there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Since you control the E-Dragon, you are its controller and your opponent is now the opponent of that E-Dragon. It will not activate the "return to hand" effect because during the end of that turn, you are not the opponent, so it's not the opponent's End Phase. During the end of your opponent's turn, it will return to its owner's hand. Even though the Semi-Nomi was flipped down, it was still properly Summoned by its effect and later sent from the Field to the Graveyard. It can be Special Summoned as a result. If it was returned to the hand/Deck, or if it was Flip Summoned and the Summon was negated, it will not be able to be Special Summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 So, something curious happened to me recently, and I want to know if it was legit or if it was YGOPro derping. I had Master Key Beetle and Safe Zone out, targeting each other, and my opponent uses Cosmic Fortress Gol'gar's effect to return my Safe Zone to the hand. Then, the game gave me the option to send Safe Zone (already in my hand) to the Graveyard to prevent the destruction of Master Key Beetle. How about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 So, something curious happened to me recently, and I want to know if it was legit or if it was YGOPro derping. I had Master Key Beetle and Safe Zone out, targeting each other, and my opponent uses Cosmic Fortress Gol'gar's effect to return my Safe Zone to the hand. Then, the game gave me the option to send Safe Zone (already in my hand) to the Graveyard to prevent the destruction of Master Key Beetle. How about that? Master Key Beetle can only send to the Graveyard cards it is targeting by its own effect. If Safe Zone is not on the field, then Master Key Beetle is no longer targeting it and cannot be used to protect Master Key Beetle from destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Can I activate Rank-Up Magic Numeron Force if there's no cards that can be negated? Also, if I can't, what happens if there's no cards to be negeted during resolution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Can you target extra deck monsters with constellar star cradle to return them to the extra deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Can I activate Rank-Up Magic Numeron Force if there's no cards that can be negated? Also, if I can't, what happens if there's no cards to be negeted during resolution? There would need to be at least 1 Face-up card in order to activate Rank-Up Magic Numeron Force. Can you target extra deck monsters with constellar star cradle to return them to the extra deck? You can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 There would need to be at least 1 Face-up card in order to activate Rank-Up Magic Numeron Force.what about my second question then? What happens if there's no card to be negated at resolution, say a monster Tributed itself to activate an effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 what about my second question then? What happens if there's no card to be negated at resolution, say a monster Tributed itself to activate an effect? Once a card is already activated (also in the case for Mandatory Effects that must activate), all cards in the game would continue to resolve what they can until the point that it can no longer resolve. This one is no different. The fact that there are no longer any face-up cards to negate wont stop the card from doing what it can in the order written on the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Once a card is already activated (also in the case for Mandatory Effects that must activate), all cards in the game would continue to resolve what they can until the point that it can no longer resolve. This one is no different. The fact that there are no longer any face-up cards to negate wont stop the card from doing what it can in the order written on the card.Alright, that's just something that always confuses me. I should probably write it down. Another thing that confuses me is one thing I heard some time ago. All Equip Cards target. Is this true? In that case, would I use Bujin Relic - Hatsuka to negate that targeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Another thing that confuses me is one thing I heard some time ago. All Equip Cards target. Is this true? In that case, would I use Bujin Relic - Hatsuka to negate that targeting? You can when someone activates an Equip Spell Card and targets a Bujin monster, but not anytime after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasy Dreamz Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Ruling of Forbidden Dress Dress' effect has no negation to effects that targets the targeted monsterRather, it prohibitsSo if a monster is already targeted by a card effectAnd Dress chain to target that same monsterDress' effect will only be in effective after the chain resolves, right? Since that monster was already targeted before Dress was activated. Or does Dress resolve first, as a chain link 2And whatever targets the targeted monster just loose it's target?(o.O) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 dress will not prevent a card its chained to from targeting since targeting happens at activation. as long as the card at cl1 doesnt destroy it will resolve normally (like d-prison) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasy Dreamz Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 So you know how you could chain 2+ card effects directing to a summon-ex:----Player A Normal Summons----Player B Torrential----Player A Starlight, but not summoning Stardust----Player B Bottomless What if Player A Summons Stardust from Starlight's effectDoes that end the chain for the Normal Summon,Or was Stardust summoned in the chain and Player B's Bottomless will still target the Normal Summoned monster?Or Player B isn't able to activate Bottomless at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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