Dragulas Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Since Parshath had its retrain, i though it would be nice to give the boss of the virus deck (which we never got in TCG) a retrain as well Name: Diabolos, the Apocalypse King Atributte: DARK Level: Wyrm / Effect Must be Special Summoned by its own effect. If this card is in your hand or GY: You can banish 2 DARK monsters you control and/or in your GY; Special Summon this card. If your opponent adds a card(s) from their Deck to their hand by a card effect: You can reveal that card(s), then you can banish those cards face-down, and if you do, your opponent draws that same number of cards. You can send 1 "Virus" Normal Trap from your Deck to the GY; this effect becomes that Trap's effect when that card is activated, also until of the end of the 3rd turn after this effect resolves, any damage your opponent takes is halved. This effect can only be used once while this card is face-up on the field. You can only use each effect of "Diabolos, the Apocalypse King" once per turn. ATK / 2900 DEF / 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Darj Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Banishing any DARKs for its built-in revival effect, huh. IDK if that's too flexible. I mean, comparing it to Parshath, which is limited to Fairies. Its effect is more active than Parshath's too, and of course potentially more devastating depending on the matchup. As a DARK/Dragon is millable by Armageddon Knight, Dragon Shrine and Ravine, Dark Matter Dragon, etc. And as icing of the cake, it offers you knowledge or control over the opponent's hand. A dangerous card, indeed; perhaps a bit too dangerous. IMO the Virus effect is just too good; I would make it search the Trap instead so you would still have to wait a turn and have the required Tribute to activate it. That, or giving a condition to its self-revival effect like Parshath has; Tributing a DARK monster would be on theme, but then it may be too impractical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted July 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Banishing any DARKs for its built-in revival effect, huh. IDK if that's too flexible. I mean, comparing it to Parshath, which is limited to Fairies. Its effect is more active than Parshath's too, and of course potentially more devastating depending on the matchup. As a DARK/Dragon is millable by Armageddon Knight, Dragon Shrine and Ravine, Dark Matter Dragon, etc. And as icing of the cake, it offers you knowledge or control over the opponent's hand. A dangerous card, indeed; perhaps a bit too dangerous. IMO the Virus effect is just too good; I would make it search the Trap instead so you would still have to wait a turn and have the required Tribute to activate it. That, or giving a condition to its self-revival effect like Parshath has; Tributing a DARK monster would be on theme, but then it may be too impractical.OG Diabolos worked with dark atributte monsters while parshath had always worked with fairies, diabolos doesnt form part of an actual archtype, so i would say i had no other choice. The dragon part could be solved by becoming a wyrm, and outside of lore it would be better the later since it solves the dragon support to assist (there still armageddon and grepher but they are less problematic). Also ve made the virus effect to make it an igniition effect, so while it still can be devastating it cannot disrupt the opponent on their turn (i mean the virus will already do that once it resolves).Also the initial intention of the card is to bypass the cost of the viruses, with this effect you dont tribute required dark monster to actívate the virus, change into searching the card will make the effect almost pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Yeah, I understand Diabolos isn't associated to a Type nor has its own archetype, but still, DARK is too broad; I guess it can't be helped. If anything, you can increase the number of DARKs required to banish; maybe 3? IDK.Virus Traps are not to be taken lightly, either; pseudo-searching them and skipping their Tribute condition takes them to a new level. That's why I suggested the Tribute condition on its self-revival effect. I wasn't really clear, though. I meant something like this: "If a DARK monster is Tributed: You can banish..." Note that it would apply on Tribute Summons, card costs and effects, etc. This could encourage the use of cards like Darklight, Spiritual Dark Art, etc. That would more or less balance the Virus replication effect, although you already nerfed it to an Ignition effect. You wouldn't have to increase the number of DARKs to banish for its revival effect either since it wouldn't be as flexible anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted July 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Add some changes to diabolos:Its now a wyrn to cut the dragon support and avoid this becoming a new pseudo dragon ruler.The virus effect now sends from the deck instead of banishing so it wont work under macro and stuff and now it ony sends from the deck, so it suffers (to certain degree) the same problem rafflesia has, although its fodder for all viruses itself (except crush card). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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