zelda_tp_fan Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Maybe I'm not understanding something but I have a question has everyone come to the conclusion that cup of ace should be banned? if so, is this because it has the potential to be pretty good, or is it because it makes the game to luck base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Maybe I'm not understanding something but I have a question has everyone come to the conclusion that cup of ace should be banned? if so' date=' is this because it has the potential to be pretty good, or is it because it makes the game to luck base?[/quote'] It's because LINAC (Luck Is Not A Cost), so this is Pot of Greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Maybe I'm not understanding something but I have a question has everyone come to the conclusion that cup of ace should be banned? if so' date=' is this because it has the potential to be pretty good, or is it because it makes the game to luck base?[/quote'] It's because LINAC (Luck Is Not A Cost), so this is Pot of Greed. Ahh... That makes sense... You just got to hope that your really lucky so that it ends up being a pot of greed... and even then, depending on the situation, your opponent drawing cards might not be such a bad idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 and even then, depending on the situation, your opponent drawing cards might not be such a bad idea... ... *walks away* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Pudding Posted May 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 and even then' date=' depending on the situation, your opponent drawing cards might not be such a bad idea...[/quote'] ... *walks away* Appropriation, maybe? Meh, I'm grasping at straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 and even then' date=' depending on the situation, your opponent drawing cards might not be such a bad idea...[/quote'] ... *walks away* What? I could probably make it fit into a mill deck... ...given, it would only work in yugioh world championship 2009 (when ever it comes out of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 and even then' date=' depending on the situation, your opponent drawing cards might not be such a bad idea...[/quote'] ... *walks away* What? I could probably make it fit into a mill deck... No. Mill doesn't run Gift of Greed. Mill doesn't run Defender. Mill doesn't run this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 This card should be banned for the same reason snipe hunter should be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Meh, it's either a +1 or a -3.A frigging -3 people!That is just too risky in competitive play. it's like Time Wizard. His effect can be a +5 and also needs coin-luck, but does he deserve a ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 and even then' date=' depending on the situation, your opponent drawing cards might not be such a bad idea...[/quote'] ... *walks away* What? I could probably make it fit into a mill deck... No. Mill doesn't run Gift of Greed. Mill doesn't run Defender. Mill doesn't run this card. Oh, I know that... as I said, it would probably only work on a yugioh game such as world championship... I mean, I made a deck that combines destiny board and exodia work on spirit caller and defenders work quite well in my mill deck on world championship 2008... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Even if you get the coin toss wrong,you can activate appropreate to still draw cards.In other words,if you have the right cards,it doesn't matter where the coin goes.A wise man once said:"Rely on skill,not on chance" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Damn.. this would make my 2 headed coin seem useful or at least change the card Heads = I Win (draw 2)Tails = You Lose (draw 2) kthnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Damn.. this would make my 2 headed coin seem useful or at least change the card Heads = I Win (draw 2)Tails = You Lose (draw 2) kthnxadded to the Ban List: Cup of AceReason: for causing simple alternate wins in 1 sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 ^lol Ban or leave it. It's based on luck and if you are unlucky just don't use it. I find no reason for limiting or semi-limiting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 adds luck to the game so has negative effect ban now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson91 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Cup of ace should be limited. Lucky, and you get two cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Pudding Posted May 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Cup of ace should be limited. Lucky' date=' and you get two cards.[/quote'] Prove that Cup of Ace is beneficial to the game at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson91 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Why? It's a POG with a "minor" downside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Pudding Posted May 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Why? It's a POG with a "minor" downside. That doesn't prove anything. Do you have reasoning that prove that Cup of Ace is beneficial to the game at 1, instead of 0, 2, or 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson91 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 1 is better. This is because you won't have the chance of drawing 4 - 6 cards in one turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 by your logic pot of greed is fine at one because you cant draw 4-6 cards in one turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson91 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 *sigh* whatever, I have confused myself now. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Ok, this card will most likely not be used in tournaments because of the luck factor. There is simply not enough reason to take that chance. And no, Second Coin Toss does not solve that problem. Still, Luck is not a cost, as demonstrated by Snipe Hunter. UDE can either ban this card or ignore it until they see the first glimpse of it being used. More importantly, they should have never created it. It does not promote skilled gameplay. There is no reason to either limit or semi-limit this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben7922 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Ok' date=' this card will most likely not be used in tournaments because of the luck factor. There is simply not enough reason to take that chance. And no, Second Coin Toss does not solve that problem. Still, Luck is not a cost, as demonstrated by Snipe Hunter. UDE can either ban this card or ignore it until they see the first glimpse of it being used. More importantly, they should have never created it. It does not promote skilled gameplay. There is no reason to either limit or semi-limit this card.[/quote'] agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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